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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by CalRobert on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:21AM (#25134743)
Perhaps we should stop letting individuals appropriate public space for storage of their private property, and charge market rate for the land used by parking, thereby encouraging people who are not car dependent to buy houses such as yours instead of demanding a public handout for vehicle storage?

(The High Cost Of Free Parking explores this issue in depth)

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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by johnday on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @06:23AM (#25135553)
What about houses which are not within walking distance of amenities, and do not have room for off-street parking? That's a large proportion of suburban (or even urban) housing in the UK.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by adrianN on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @06:42AM (#25135697)
Time to build some amenities and public transport. Suburban dead zones where you can't do anything without a car are terrible anyway. What about old people who can't drive anymore but can't afford to move? Or children?
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by CalRobert on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @08:22AM (#25136433)
Buy or rent a place to store your property, or sell the stuff you can't store on your land? I've been talking about getting a piano but my wife has reminded me we'll need to extend the house first, sadly.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by physicsguy on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:33AM (#25134839)
I mean, I agree to some extent, but there's also no public transport service to the place I'm buying a house other than a single bus that runs twice a day for taking kids to school.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by matsemann on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @04:44AM (#25134914)
Then that would either create pressure to have more public transport, or affect the prices on the homes as people would prefer to live accessible. Changes don't happen in a vacuum, they bring other changes with them.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by pjc50 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @06:02AM (#25135394)
No public transport and not enough space to have off-street parking is a pretty terrible combination.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by CalRobert on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @08:20AM (#25136414)
If there's no car storage and it's impossible to live without a car it might be better as grazing land, meadow, or similar.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by Hamuko on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @06:43AM (#25135712)
>Perhaps we should stop letting individuals appropriate public space for storage of their private property

Are you arguing for getting rid of apartments?

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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by CalRobert on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @08:24AM (#25136443)
Not at all! I just think yop've no more right to store your car on the public street than you do a hot tub, piano, etc.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by tankenmate on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @08:51AM (#25136673)
There are about 7 million houses in England without some form of off street housing. Changing that will take far more work that wiring up ~2M lamp posts.

Also, to ban all parking on public roads is also infeasible aside from the houses with parking issues. Most city centre businesses would vehemently oppose such a move without replacement parking which would cost far far more money from the public purse.

So although I'm quite happy for people to have opinions, the consequences of enacting this opinion would be a greater waste of public resources than just allowing people to park on the side of the road (in most cases).

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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by tim333 on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @12:12PM (#25139372)
Well in practice you have a right usually to park your car on the street but not your hot tub because that's how things were designed and worked for decades and it's not going to change in a hurry. The public streets are controlled via the government by the public and they are mostly ok with it.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by economusty on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @07:39AM (#25136093)
They are proposing to charge for parking spaces, like installing meters.
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Re:Britain to ban new petrol cars and vans by 2030 on road t... by KaiserPro on Wednesday November 18, 2020 @08:30AM (#25136480)
i mean thats what "road tax" is for....
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