Introducing the next generation of Mac

Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by stjo on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:31PM (#25050533)

IIRC at WWC Apple said it would still be possible to boot unsigned OS, but it would show some kind of warning.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by sneak on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:41PM (#25050716)

This is the best news I’ve heard all day, thank you!

I’m totally fine with a chromebook-style unsigned boot warning.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by Asmod4n on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @02:44PM (#25050758)

During WWDC they said you can't use any other operating System at boot time, only through virtual Machines.

Update: here a podcast with Craig Federighi on that matter https://youtu.be/Hg9F1Qjv3iU

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by shaicoleman on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @03:06PM (#25051105)

Link with timestamp: https://youtu.be/Hg9F1Qjv3iU?t=3772

"we're not direct booting an alternate operating system, it's purely virtualization"

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by saagarjha on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @10:20PM (#25055155)

You can, they are just saying Bootcamp isn’t a thing.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by pkulak on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @04:29PM (#25052213)

Why not just support a company that doesn't do this crap?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by sneak on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @07:54PM (#25054291)

I would happily.

Who else is making 8 core, 18 hour battery life laptops that have >200ppi displays and weigh <=1290g?

The choice is now performance xor privacy.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by katbyte on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:10PM (#25052710)

Because most people don’t care?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by redwall_hp on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @09:34PM (#25054934)

Why not legislate companies to not do this crap?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by stjohnswarts on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:07PM (#25052682)

I'd be tempted to buy one if this ends up being the case

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by aroman on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @05:53PM (#25053183)

But what would you run on it? What OS besides macOS has support for running on Apple Silicon?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by skohan on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @06:42PM (#25053637)

What's the meaningful difference from other ARM chips which would make this impossible?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by redwall_hp on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @09:33PM (#25054928)

Apple's not going to ship drivers for Linux, and it's a SoC. So someone needs to somehow write an open source driver for Apple's proprietary black box of a GPU.

I suspect very little will work at all if someone can get Linux to boot on one, and it will be a very lengthy endeavor to get things up to being usable.

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by YetAnotherNick on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @08:34PM (#25054583)

Which ARM chip based device can run linux without the manufacturer's drivers?

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Re:Introducing the next generation of Mac by hocuspocus on Tuesday November 10, 2020 @08:32PM (#25054571)

The bootloader and GPU mostly.

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