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Re:Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% prote... by Certhas on Monday November 09, 2020 @12:30PM (#25037176)
> Contract tracing hasn't worked at scale anywhere.

I am not sure this is true. At least some articles I read attribute the successes in many Asian countries to aggressive contact tracing and quarantining. You don't ask people kindly to self-isolate, you move them to hotels and quarantine them. You don't ask them to remember their contacts, you aggressively investigate them using every source of data available.

I think an argument can be made that Europe simply got it wrong in the details. In order to find less invasive means of controlling covid that respect privacy we ended up limiting freedoms much more and for longer.

Re:Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% prote... by ptx on Monday November 09, 2020 @06:41PM (#25041324)
Taiwan did ask people kindly to self-isolate at home in most cases, and it worked extremely well. Certainly a lot better than telling travellers returning from high-risk areas to go straight to work the next day, as the brilliant minds in charge did in some other places.
Re:Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% prote... by spullara on Monday November 09, 2020 @12:35PM (#25037238)
Asia results are from strict compliance to protocols across the population.
Re:Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% prote... by lostlogin on Monday November 09, 2020 @12:57PM (#25037520)
> In order to find less invasive means of controlling covid that respect privacy we ended up limiting freedoms much more and for longer.

There is limited freedom during a lockdown, but a short sharp one can lead to almost complete normality soon after. Short and sharp or long and drawn out?

The drawn out option would seem a dubious freedom. My perspective is heavily skewed by being in NZ and reading US and UK news.

Re:Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% prote... by josephg on Monday November 09, 2020 @09:10PM (#25042206)
Yep. People seem to think that more lockdown = worse economy. NZ shows the relationship isn't so simple. A stricter lockdown seemed to work better from both a health perspective and an economic perspective.
Re:Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% prote... by wolco2 on Monday November 09, 2020 @03:25PM (#25039446)
Asian and Italian strain were different covid strains.
Re:Covid vaccine: First ‘milestone’ vaccine offers 90% prote... by wolco2 on Monday November 09, 2020 @04:23PM (#25040101)