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Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by BoumTAC on Thursday November 05, 2020 @09:48AM (#24998690)
One of the biggest advantage of Intel over AMD is naming. Every new release of AMD I have absolutely no clue about the product line (if it's high end or low end or desktop/mobile), and I have no idea about the generation between two AMD processor whereas with Intel it's easy the generation is in the product name and the category is easy to understand (i3/i5/i7)
Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by Macha on Thursday November 05, 2020 @09:52AM (#24998717)
To be fair AMD literally copied the category scheme 3 generations ago and stuck with it (r3/r5/r7/r9).

This generation they've also moved to simplify further. The mobile chips with the same number were always one gen behind the desktop (mobile 4xxx ~= desktop 3xxx), but now they've skipped desktop 4000 both are back in sync.

Also Intel's naming scheme is getting complicated too. Base vs K vs KF Vs F. 10xxxgY vs 10xxxH/U on mobile are two entirely seperate tenth gens with lots of overlap.

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by kllrnohj on Thursday November 05, 2020 @02:24PM (#25001091)
Don't forget Intel's brand new Core i7-1185G7. A name so terrible that Intel only said it a single time during their announcement presentation (by comparison they said "4800U" 8 times in that same presentation)
Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by BoumTAC on Thursday November 05, 2020 @10:19AM (#24998957)
what about AMD Embedded, if I look at the AMD page of mini pc they don't have r3/r5r/7/r9 category whereas Intel have.

I don't know what AMD embedded is compare to r3

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by vel0city on Thursday November 05, 2020 @10:38AM (#24999136)
Well, if we're going to throw embedded into the mix, Intel gets really complicated as well. What's this J1900? J3455? Quick: what features does the 3455 have over the 1900? Is Apollo Lake good? Or is Bay Trail newer? How does Cannon Lake compare to Apollo Lake?

Comparing NUCs, which is better: the BXNUC10I7FNK1, or BXNUC10I3FNK1?

I've got a i5 3350P. Quick, what does the P stand for?

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by leetcrew on Thursday November 05, 2020 @10:02AM (#24998815)
have you looked at intel laptop skus recently?

edit: it's certainly fair to criticize the manufacturers for having bad sku names, but it really doesn't matter that much in the big picture. most people that buy computers neither know nor care about the specific CPU. especially with laptops, the decision is usually made for you by the OEM and you decide based on what size SSD and display you want. if you do actually care what part you get and are in a position to choose, you should make your decision based on benchmarks, not a sku name.

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by cbozeman on Thursday November 05, 2020 @10:55AM (#24999289)
Yeah R5, R7, R9 vs. i3, i5, i7, i9...

10900K, 10900KS, 10900 vs. 5600X, 5800X, 5900X, 5950X

I see where confusion could creep in.

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by lorenzhs on Thursday November 05, 2020 @09:52AM (#24998716)
They both follow roughly the same scheme and even have the generation in the same spot of the name:

(i|Ryzen )[3579] (1 or 2 digits to indicate generation)(3 digits for model)(optional suffixes)

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by toast0 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:00PM (#24999812)
The problem with intel naming is comparing products across lines is hard. iX, Pentium, and Celeron are not on the same thousands, so it's hard to tell which are the same core design. Hiding Atom chips in the same lineup is extra confusing.

Of course, since Intel is pretty much stalled for the last few years, it's a little easier now.

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by vSanjo on Thursday November 05, 2020 @09:54AM (#24998742)
I understand - but surely this can't be a downside to the product? How often does the average Joe need to learn their naming conventions?

I feel like I learn them during the purchasing/comparison period then never need to look again unless I'm repeating that cycle.

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by Dahoon on Thursday November 05, 2020 @05:46PM (#25002923)
>the generation is in the product name and the category is easy to understand (i3/i5/i7)

Not really. Look at core count at the old I7 vs. the new. If anything Intels naming is even worse.

Re:AMD Zen 3 Ryzen Deep Dive Review by andoriyu on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:50PM (#25001814)
Have you seen latest Intel chip names for laptops?