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Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday October 31, 2020 @01:09PM (#24953151)
> Otherwise it's just numbers hopping around anonymously on a ledger

That’s tax evasion.

I know it’s chic to be callous about tax fraud in some cryptocurrency circles. But the same has been true of cash, art and bearer bonds for centuries.

Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by kneel on Saturday October 31, 2020 @01:25PM (#24953317)
It's not tax evasion if the hops are non taxable events, and the privacy of wallets enable anyone to deny it.

This is why Bitcoin is an existential threat to government power. I personally think it's empowering and great for the individual, however if you tend towards more statist views then this would seem like anarchy.

Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by uniqueid on Saturday October 31, 2020 @04:56PM (#24955126)
Many of our governments are liberal democracies. It sounds less positive when you rephrase it like that; ie: "Bitcoin is a threat to liberal democracy"

I don't want some drug lord to pump/dump/coerce/tax-evade their way into being the richest person on my continent, and then hire an army to take my nation over. That is easier with crypto currency than it is with fiat.

The tech community dropped the ball in the '90s by being panglossian about the potential problems with the web. It would be nice if, this time, we could get ahead of the ball with crypto currencies.

Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by brokenkebab on Sunday November 01, 2020 @01:58PM (#24961600)
Though it expresses valid concern, it doesn't make especially compelling argument because it's too easy to flip it: majority of gov'ts are not democracies, and there are lots of places where organized crime, and officials are the same people. Shouldn't we praise a possibility for people to circumvent corruption, and crime, not enabling all of these, and also repressive apparatus with their hard-earned money? I suppose life's not that easy for us to have just one morally correct choice here.
Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by kneel on Saturday October 31, 2020 @06:14PM (#24955634)
Yeah I think those are valid concerns.

The ideal case would be a hybrid system of state fiat and cryptocurrencies where liberal democracies incentivize their citizens to use fiat through better governance and services while also respecting the sovereignty of individuals to accumulate value that cannot be debased by dumb political decisions.

Why not both?

Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by stale2002 on Saturday October 31, 2020 @08:07PM (#24956297)
> Many of our governments are liberal democracies.

The liberal democracies are pretty open and positive on cryptocurrencies. So no, it does not seem to be threat to them.

Instead, it is more of a threat to the less liberal countries.

Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday November 01, 2020 @12:46AM (#24957290)
OP advocates wilful tax fraud [1].

If large portions of the economy aren’t paying taxes, I am not paying taxes. This breaks down the social contract. Given authoritarian nations’ increased force projection, this vision of cryptocurrencies first corrodes liberal democracies, where those not paying have courts and Constitutions between them and the state.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24953317

Re:What Bitcoin’s White Paper Got Right, Wrong and What We S... by stale2002 on Sunday November 01, 2020 @01:12AM (#24957371)
> OP advocates wilful tax fraud

Nope! Liberal democracies allow cryptocurrency and it very well could be the case that some of these crypto events are non taxable events.

Thats just working within what liberal democracies allow.

> have courts and Constitutions

Courts and constitutions are pretty important in liberal democracies. I support the protections that those provide, personally.