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Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by nine_k on Thursday October 29, 2020 @03:50PM (#24934863)
I think the article misses the point of forums.

The point is to communicate with other people here and now, to help each other on short notice, to spread knowledge which the readers can apply immediately.

It's like mistaking talking for books. Talking is fleeting, but also indispensable for doing anything of consequence (including writing a book).

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by the_af on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:34PM (#24935430)
> The point is to communicate with other people here and now

Forums are -- or used to be, anyway -- a hybrid form of communication: it's both immediate but also useful for achival purposes. Many forums will tell you to read a specific thread when you want info about something in particular. In some forums, users use specific threads for archival/progress of a project.

Chat is ephemeral like you describe, but forums aren't necessarily.

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by neuralRiot on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:56PM (#24935752)
I can’t count how many times forums saved me with obscure bugs/ failures. “Nvidia driver crashes when playing x at x resolution” good luck with tech support if they can’t replicate the failure.
Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by darkwizard42 on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:10PM (#24935128)
FWIW this seems to be the general challenge of Stack Overflow and Quora which are stuck halfway between "ask questions and get answers live-ish" and "come and look up information that was discussed in the past"

I think the curation piece that separates chatter now vs. published organized information is where forums lie in the middle of

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by boomboomsubban on Thursday October 29, 2020 @05:45PM (#24936421)
The first sentence is

>If you're, for example, contributing to a reddit thread about something which is irrelevant or anything with only a short-term relevance, this article does not apply to you right now.

Forums often end up with some posts that have a more long term benefit, and those should be hosted somewhere else.

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by moneytide1 on Friday October 30, 2020 @04:24PM (#24946529)
Yeah a paragraph or two with critical information is mere bytes and therefore readily accessible by even the slowest internet connection and processing device - picture & audio are more expensive to serve. This means text is highly visible - I treat posting with a certain long-term awareness.

I have parsed many old forums after a search engine sent me there - this has been my primary education tool for different things. Niche issues encountered by several strangers across the world can be resolved by someone who made a post one time so it can occupy some hardware storage, perhaps many times archived in several scattered drives depending on its contribution value, from where it can be served to anyone else who needs it in the future.

Web forum archive shuttering described by the author would limit information available for the search engine to parse. But the author's solution is to reduce contribution effort because forums may disappear one day? [1]

I agree with you - within a week of something posted is when the "work" gets done (and idea transmitted out of internet into physical group of people who can relay the memory). Seeing a snapshot of a helpful interaction between people skilled in different domains sharing observations/stories/explanations is often inspiring to me and so I would want the creators of this content to put their best foot forward instead of treating it as disposable communication space.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by jdally987 on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:13PM (#24935181)
Nah that’s more like messaging platforms. IRC, Telegram, matrix, etc.

I was thinking about this yesterday actually. I’ve been having a lot of questions about this new linux distro I’ve been using, and piling them on in the IRC channel, but if no one answers it right away it gets buried by the next message after me. So I kept re-asking it for multiple days before realizing, you know what if this is something that only even a few people might know how to help me with, I should probably leave it to “steep” on a proper Discourse topic, or reddit thread, or stackoverflow question or whatever. I hadn’t done that because I was just super impatient and knew it might be a good half a day or 2 or 3 days before I get a reply, but it’s much more likely to get one at all than in the IRC, where someone butting in with a meme or something right after me means my question might as well be nonexistent in the conversation stream.

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by fastball on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:29PM (#24935365)
Forums are still closer to talking than they are to a book.

It's just that the internet allows them to be async conversations. A forum is fairly equivalent to email, just usually more public than email and the underlying infrastructure isn't federated.

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by the_af on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:36PM (#24935461)
Agreed. But like email, I expect forum threads/posts to stay indefinitely and be searchable, until I explicitly delete them.

Email is a persistent conversation which gets archived indefinitely, not an ephemeral one like talking with our mouths.

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by nine_k on Thursday October 29, 2020 @05:52PM (#24936512)
Your personal email may be retained indefinitely.

Corporate email (and IM, etc) gets purged pretty quickly, within 2-3 years, unless you save a particular message / thread explicitly.

Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by BlueTemplar on Thursday October 29, 2020 @06:13PM (#24936726)
Aren't they worried about losing most of the knowledge of the context of decisions made?
Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by holler on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:23PM (#24935284)
Im working on a new topical discussion site just for cases like this, where each post has an irc-like chat built in, is open, and can be shared by url. https://sqwok.im
Re:Don't contribute anything relevant in web forums by tclancy on Thursday October 29, 2020 @04:10PM (#24935129)
Yes. So much of the Internet is driven by "Everyone should do what I do in this exact, specific situation which may or may not apply to your life ever."