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Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by octoberfranklin on Sunday October 25, 2020 @07:55PM (#24891310)
These "open" vendors are selling you machines with a very, very closed Intel Management Engine (IME) or AMD Platform Security Processor (PSP) in it.

They're distracting people from the real problem, and doing so is harmful.

Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by jdally987 on Monday October 26, 2020 @01:31AM (#24893071)
What.

I forget what all of the main players are right now, but I know I’ve read on at least 2 of these types of open hardware companies’ sites how they scrub the intel ME all but completely out of the machine. That’s kind of the whole point, and they advertise that pretty conspicuously in their marketing.

If I didn’t start using a (17”, 3lb!) LG Gram laptop right around the time before I learned about open firmware, I would probably use a system76 laptop. For right now, the LG is just so damn light for that huge beautiful screen.....i’ve ruined myself and can’t switch to anything else until further notice unless another manufacturer makes a similarly ridiculous screensize:weight-ratio’d laptop lol (pine, purism, s76...you listening?)

Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by MacsHeadroom on Sunday October 25, 2020 @08:12PM (#24891426)
Purism physically destroys components that won't run libre firmware.
Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by octoberfranklin on Sunday October 25, 2020 @10:59PM (#24892463)
They physically destroy the laptop's CPU?

I doubt that.

Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by MacsHeadroom on Saturday November 07, 2020 @08:16PM (#25021792)
Parts of the processor chipset, yes, and anything else that can't run on libre firmware.

Compute Cores are fine, so the CPU still works.

Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by marcus_holmes on Monday October 26, 2020 @05:42AM (#24894343)
I have a Purism laptop, can confirm that the CPU is intact and the Intel malware is disabled. Read their site, they go into the details there.
Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by octoberfranklin on Sunday November 08, 2020 @09:22PM (#25030838)
> and the Intel malware is disabled

You confirmed this how?

> Read their site, they go into the details there.

Debunked. The HAP bit doesn't do what they think it does:

https://twitter.com/rootkovska/status/938458875522666497

Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by fsflover on Monday October 26, 2020 @06:52AM (#24894738)
Re:I am seriously considering going back to desktop computers by octoberfranklin on Sunday November 08, 2020 @09:20PM (#25030824)
The HAP bit doesn't do what you think it does:

https://twitter.com/rootkovska/status/938458875522666497