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Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by Brajeshwar on Saturday October 24, 2020 @08:53AM (#24878894)
I'm not a serious photographer but I love it enough to shoot enough.

I use Apple's iCloud with a 2TB plan as my primary. I back it up with Google One's 2TB family plan where we have a common family photos (wife, and I)and my 11-year old daughter learning to shoot. The Google Photos is more because Apple has no correct implementation of sharing/collaborating between the family members.

- Stingle is costlier than Apple or Google's plan.

- It does not say anywhere that this is open source and I can host it myself, plugged in with a storage such as AWS S3 or Wasabi or any other cloud that I can backup/store etc.

So far, NextCloud[1] seems to be the best bet with PhotoSync[2] keeping a local/cloud backup. I need the ability to share photos with an expansive network of families/relatives on different platforms such as Android, Windows, Mac, Linux.

I haven't found any other services and am beginning to believe I have a weird and different needs than most.

1. https://nextcloud.com

2. https://www.photosync-app.com/

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by caymanjim on Saturday October 24, 2020 @09:58AM (#24879255)
You can't really compare Stingle to Google, Apple, or any other cloud photo services. Stingle's whole value proposition is encryption. Google and Apple don't offer encryption-at-rest, and Google in particular is using the photos you upload to learn about you and market to you. If you're looking for cheap cloud hosting and don't care about privacy, last I checked, Google offered unlimited photo storage (with restrictions on individual photo size that are perfectly fine for non-professional viewing and use).
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by perch56 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @11:56AM (#24879953)
I’m not sure about Google however last time I checked Apple had both encryption at rest and E2EE.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/HT202303

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by divarre on Saturday October 24, 2020 @12:24PM (#24880135)
No E2EE for photos saved in iCloud, but they're encrypted in transit (SSL/TLS) and at rest (they get encrypted on the servers and not your device so not using E2EE).

You have to scroll a bit further down to see “End-to-end encrypted data” on the page you linked :)

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by londons_explore on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:04PM (#24880843)
With Google photos are encrypted in transit and at rest, but not E2E
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by yters on Saturday October 24, 2020 @05:26PM (#24882077)
What is the need for encrypting photos?
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by pfranz on Saturday October 24, 2020 @07:42PM (#24882782)
It depends on your paranoia about attack vectors. From photo EXIF data you can figure out what phones and cameras you use, where you took the pictures, and dates and times you've traveled. With AI or looking at the photos you can ID people and other personal details. I sometimes take photos of personal documents that can be OCRed.

Sure, techies tend to be more paranoid than the average person, but I do think people undervalue the long tail of data. Years ago I was talking to my wife about avoiding sensitive info in email with our tax preparer. I mentioned that we could send an email and a decade later he could get compromised and it would be trivial to scan old emails for specific data like w2s, social security numbers, or bank accounts.

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by bald42 on Monday October 26, 2020 @04:55AM (#24894067)
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by spurgu on Saturday October 24, 2020 @09:14AM (#24878996)
> - It does not say anywhere that this is open source and I can host it myself, plugged in with a storage such as AWS S3 or Wasabi or any other cloud that I can backup/store etc.

It doesn't, which sucks. I was hoping for the exact same thing. It only says that the client is open source, so you can verify that your photos are actually encrypted.

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by e40 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @10:48AM (#24879520)
Looks like just the clients are OSS: https://github.com/stingle
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by jooize on Saturday October 24, 2020 @08:25PM (#24882928)
Apple's photo album sharing is so stupid. I can make albums, but then to share those photos I have to make a shared album in which I cannot rearrange nor change the photos once “posted”. If they would just implement sharing of regular albums …. Anyone with an idea why they have not?
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by SlavikCA on Saturday October 24, 2020 @04:32PM (#24881763)
NextCloud is generally slow, but with photos - it's unbearable slow. It has multiply layers of cache, which make everything slower(?!), it's slow to show thumbnails, it's slow to go from one photo to another. Basically it's unusable for sharing photos.
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by mceachen on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:36PM (#24882455)
If you want to self-host your photos, and you don't mind non-free software, you're welcome to try out https://photostructure.com (disclaimer: I'm the author). The beta is available for free in exchange for your feedback.

PhotoStructure is especially applicable if you want a cross-platform solution (mac, windows, linux, docker), and don't want to be tied to a specific NAS or cloud vendor[1].

Every time you open the home page you see something new, as PhotoStructure picks out random "samples" by year, or by camera, or by keyword. It's fun to see photos you haven't seen in a while!

[1] https://photostructure.com/faq/why-photostructure/

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by jlkuester7 on Saturday October 24, 2020 @08:18PM (#24882910)
My experience with photos in Nextcloud was vastly improved when I setup the Preview Generator app [1]. Still not blazing fast, but makes the Files app usable again when browsing folders with lots of photos. Significantly better than before.

1. https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/previewgenerator

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by Nux on Saturday October 24, 2020 @05:10PM (#24881978)
It's slow indeed, in my experience, as well, but not unusable.
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by benhurmarcel on Saturday October 24, 2020 @06:47PM (#24882507)
Is there a solution that would mirror the iCloud Photos collection; where deleting or modifying a photo on iCloud would be reflected on the server?

I like to use iCloud primarily, but I'm looking for a solution to sync the collection to take an offline regular versioned backup. So far all the options I've tried kept all photos, including the deleted ones, and duplicate the modified ones.

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by Heliosmaster on Saturday October 24, 2020 @10:09AM (#24879312)
It's not 100% comparable, but I'm using my Synology NAS with a few TB of space, and the Photostation app. DS Photo automatically syncs pictures from our phones and i manually upload the camera ones. I also use Synology C2 for offsite backup of my whole NAS. Works pretty well.
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by wjnc on Saturday October 24, 2020 @03:08PM (#24881260)
How do you test backups? (I have the same setup but with some extra paranoia layers that I'm looking to relax.)
Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by novok on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:44PM (#24881108)
The two services that I've found give E2EE photo syncing on just your local devices / cloud services AND have mobile & desktop apps are mylio & photostructure.

Unfortunately not open source, but it is what it is.

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by tannhaeuser on Saturday October 24, 2020 @09:51AM (#24879220)
> It does not say anywhere that this is open source and I can host it myself, plugged in with a storage such as AWS S3 or Wasabi or any other cloud that I can backup/store etc.

Ask yourself why would an open-source tool provide "cloud storage"? To bring more customers to the respective cloud provider? It's also not particularly altruistic in a FOSS sense to lock your photos into cloud plans.

Re:Open-source photo gallery with cloud backup and end-to-en... by shirakawasuna on Saturday October 24, 2020 @02:29PM (#24881007)
NextCloud already offers photo sync and gallery functionality that you can self-host. 100% free and open source.