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Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by bitL on Friday October 09, 2020 @06:53PM (#24735233)
Because it creates an automatic subconscious response (excitement) in males. I guess brain is built that way for the sake of reproduction of human population.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by quacked on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:07PM (#24735333)
You're right and you're wrong. Men who grow up being exposed to the idea of nipples as sexual have a subconscious response; men who have not, don't, which is why some lineages of humanity don't have the same taboo, like most pre-modern tribes. It's the same reason that an ankle could be scandalous and arousing in 1750, but isn't now (with some exceptions in modern subculture.)

Personally I'm in favor of modesty, and would prefer not to have sexuality flaunted everywhere like it is, but your answer isn't quite accurate.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by rcoveson on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:35PM (#24735474)
> Personally I'm in favor of modesty...

I'm a little confused. Didn't your first paragraph illustrate how "modesty" is basically subjective? If that's the case, what does it mean to be in favor of it? Are you in favor of the current notion of modesty as it is today in your country, and if so, why?

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by LudwigNagasena on Saturday October 10, 2020 @12:29AM (#24736688)
Humans share many subjective feelings and views. Just because something is subjective it doesn’t mean it should be disregarded.

What days should be holidays is also pretty subjective, but if the society can agree on which days to consider as holidays, probably it can also agree on what is considered sexual and modest. (Which is actually way more important than holidays because it impacts children that could be traumatized by certain sexual behaviors).

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by rcoveson on Saturday October 10, 2020 @03:16PM (#24741157)
> Just because something is subjective it doesn’t mean it should be disregarded.

Right, I completely agree. Which is why I'm confused when somebody brings up how a topic is subjective, complicated, and has been approached in the past in a way that seems ridiculous to us today; and then says simply "personally I'm in favor of [it]." That strikes me as disregarding the issue, and even disregarding what they just said themselves.

> ...probably it can also agree on what is considered sexual and modest.

I don't think the people of the USA will come to an agreement on this in my lifetime. Why would they? They haven't for the last hundred years.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by quacked on Monday October 12, 2020 @02:48PM (#24757940)
I see your confusion, but I never actually agreed that the way people approached it in the past was ridiculous. Nearly every single human custom is arbitrary and subjective, but there's no reason to abandon all preferences simply because we understand that.

"Modesty" in my country means that behaviors and body parts that are considered sexual are not displayed prominently or advertised; it doesn't matter that a nipple may not be inherently sexual, because everyone here feels that it is, and thus not displaying (and by extension, not saturating TV, movies, and advertisements with images of sexualized breasts) would be considered modest.

I certainly wouldn't mind if the nipple was eventually de-sexualized, but seeing as that's likely not possible given the internet, and since it will likely remain sexualized at least in the western world, I'd prefer if people were modest about it.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by young_unixer on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:18PM (#24735386)
I guess that has more to do with sensory habituation/satiety than with attraction to breasts being a social construct.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by cblconfederate on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:25PM (#24735424)
that argument wouldn't work with native tribes. These things are entirely cultural and specifically judeo-christian. From the the ancient Minoans who portray their women usually barebreasted, to the greeks and romans , to many non-western societies, it is the prominent puritanism of anglosaxon cultures that is sticking out as an exception, not the other way around.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by thaumasiotes on Saturday October 10, 2020 @01:20AM (#24736851)
That something is routinely exposed is not evidence that it isn't considered sexually exciting. You know what part of a woman is always, without exception, considered a major part of her sex appeal? Her face.

But faces stay exposed almost everywhere.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by cblconfederate on Saturday October 10, 2020 @02:39AM (#24737072)
Sure, a person is attractive in many ways.

The nudity policy in media however is utterly ridiculous. Butts are allowed nipplee are not , but breastfeeding is probably ok, bikinis are ok, but not if too wet , etc etc.

Tech is perpetuating the Victorian era in the most comical, backwards fashion

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by reaperducer on Sunday October 11, 2020 @09:32AM (#24745637)
that argument wouldn't work with native tribes. These things are entirely cultural and specifically judeo-christian

You must have a cartoon sense of "native tribes," because this existed in many "native tribes" and other cultures around the world before the first missionaries arrived.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by bitL on Friday October 09, 2020 @10:07PM (#24736224)
Take it another way: would you prevent your boys from having one more erotogenous zone to explore on their partner when they are adult just so that you could explore it everywhere now? Would you be so selfish to be able to experience it now but prevent your kids from ever experiencing it?
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by Broken_Hippo on Saturday October 10, 2020 @07:10AM (#24738122)
So, perhaps we should cover ears, necks, and lips too? Backs too, can't forget that. No sandals. Don't forget men, too: They really need to cover up more. Especially their nipples. Beaches are going to be a real bummer and more uncomfortable. Perhaps we should require loose swimwear and increase risk of drowning while we are at it.

Nudity isn't going to take away any of these zones. You children are going to experience things differently than you, and nudity isn't going to encourage or prevent it.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by cblconfederate on Saturday October 10, 2020 @02:42AM (#24737086)
Sorry that’s one of the most ridiculous arguments for oppressing everyone, and partially applied. Why not cover men’s nipples too?
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by bitL on Saturday October 10, 2020 @09:00AM (#24738680)
We should cover sports cars, those make females excited. Not male nipples.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by cblconfederate on Saturday October 10, 2020 @10:08AM (#24739098)
and six-packs
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by bitL on Saturday October 10, 2020 @01:47PM (#24740570)
...but only if they are of Magic Mike size, larger ones are repulsive (I was told).
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by saagarjha on Saturday October 10, 2020 @04:31AM (#24737471)
There are people that fetishize feet, so I’m not sure your argument can even be supported even if it wasn’t such a strange reach.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by bitL on Saturday October 10, 2020 @09:01AM (#24738685)
...and balloons. I was surprised to learn that having a bunch of balloons next to models is a fetish to some as well.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by cblconfederate on Saturday October 10, 2020 @10:09AM (#24739101)
I 'm pretty sure the universe of fetishes is infinite and probably expanding. I wonder if there's research on that.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by messe on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:26PM (#24735432)
> Because it creates an automatic subconscious response (excitement) in males.

Is that an innate response? Or is it one that comes from your upbringing and social environment?

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by viraptor on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:43PM (#24735524)
The environment. See many photos of tribal villages where women don't cover breasts.

Or on the other side the not that distant outrage about women wearing trousers which exposes leg shape.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by brabel on Saturday October 10, 2020 @03:44AM (#24737271)
Tribe women not covering breasts does not imply tribe men did not get excited to see them. Modern women, specially young, dress very provocatively sometimes, and men definitely feel excited when they see them, yet they do it anyway.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by 082349872349872 on Saturday October 10, 2020 @04:11AM (#24737386)
One of the oldest pieces of extant textiles is a string skirt, which was apparently designed to reveal as much as it hides.

I find it entirely plausible that dressing in string skirts and flowers while dancing to songs with highly ambiguous lyrics would have been the neolithic equivalent of "woo girls" tottering around on heels, intermittently pulling down skirt hems and emitting the Sorority Mating Call ("I'm soooo drunk").

Koyo, to wa terashting mali? Fo to du seping kori mi. (Baby, are you an attitude control Epstein? Because you make my heart spin.)

Bonus clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-Qtz70_z4

    Push wit xante
    Push wit lek
    Leta kom but ere dek
    Push wit xante
    Leta kori fo du mi xush
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by bitL on Saturday October 10, 2020 @09:07AM (#24738720)
Could it be that distant tribal villages didn't go through the same type of evolution and their brains didn't develop specific receptors in their visual field/cortex to detect nipples and bind them to the reward system in the brain? We know that even a single neuron in visual cortex can detect complex objects shapes like animals, who tells us that we didn't develop a specialized nipple detector neuron linked directly to the reward center while Papuan tribes didn't?
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by intricatedetail on Saturday October 10, 2020 @04:26AM (#24737459)
This response fades quickly. Censorship only perpetuates this.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by jacobwilliamroy on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:14PM (#24735367)
Why can't I be excited? Why is that such a crime?
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by cgrealy on Friday October 09, 2020 @08:41PM (#24735795)
I don’t think it’s a crime to find a woman’s body sexually arousing.

I just think we to chill the fuck out if we see a boob.

It’s titillating... so what? Is that such a bad thing?

A great example was when I watched a YouTube video on Robocop a while ago. Robocop is a great movie, but it’s insanely violent. Yet YouTube was fine with all the violence and gore. But show a nipple? Bam... instant demonetisation.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by 082349872349872 on Saturday October 10, 2020 @03:09AM (#24737153)
As far as I've seen, soviet censorship took the opposite tack from US censorship, roughly: dem titties, xorosho, but on-screen violence? straight to GuLag, citizen!

Come to think of it, the USSR did dissolve nearly peacefully. Maybe those censors knew what they were doing?

Ere wa wel, desh terash kowltim, deradzhang inyalowda tili pensa wit kuwang. (In a gravity well, there's always acceleration, which is why Inners don't think straight.)

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by Tade0 on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:44PM (#24735527)
Crime - no, but every social media platform that doesn't actively fight porn eventually turns into a porn site.

OnlyFans is an example of a service which embraced adult content, but most others would rather not go this route.

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by jacobwilliamroy on Friday October 09, 2020 @07:57PM (#24735606)
Why should we separate people from what they want?
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by Tade0 on Saturday October 10, 2020 @05:18AM (#24737685)
Because most users don't want this. Those who do though are highly motivated and are able to overwhelm any service with spam.
Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by srg0 on Saturday October 10, 2020 @06:24AM (#24737932)
There's a thing called user preferences. Ask a few questions when creating an account, are you ok seeing naked human body? Are you ok seeing death, blood and traumas? Are you ok seing people engaged in reproductive activities? Are you ok seeing violence? Then blur the images or text which happen to be categorised as nude, gore or porn. Require action to unblur them. Nobody is offended, nothing is censored.

I can understand some people may want to avoid nipples, like some people may find images of guns or knives disturbing. But things like that are a personal preference.

In this day and age information delivery is already personalized. There is no excuse to censor content or ads based on what "most users don't want".

Re:Some onions were too sexy for Facebook by bitL on Friday October 09, 2020 @10:08PM (#24736227)
Driving a car? Operating heavy machinery? Flying a plane? Taking GMAT for your M7 MBA admission?