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Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by farias0 on Friday October 02, 2020 @08:30AM (#24661911)
The exactly same goes for Brazil. Am I seeing a pattern here, i.e. countries that are supposed to be great but really aren't?
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by cainxinth on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:17AM (#24662833)
I was backpacking Europe years ago and I met this Brazilian girl. We were discussing places that required a visa and she said she never bothered with them. I asked how that was possible.

She said that if anyone ever questioned her she just acted confused and found a way to sneak off. I was flabbergasted. She simply (and proudly) explained: "It's the Brazilian way of life!"

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by whatever_dude on Friday October 02, 2020 @04:18PM (#24666625)
She's right. It even has a name, "jeitinho": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeitinho
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by fetbaffe on Friday October 02, 2020 @08:53AM (#24662065)
Pattern is high trust societies vs low trust societies.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by disgruntledphd2 on Friday October 02, 2020 @09:00AM (#24662124)
Yeah, personally I think this has a lot to do with post-colonialism.

I'm Irish, and there's a lot of this in our society. It was much more accepted in my parents generation, and appears to be reducing a little bit as we become a richer society.

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by rbanffy on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:13AM (#24662793)
I heard from an Irish colleague (I'm a Brazilian expat in Dublin) that this attitude, in particular towards taxes, changed after the independence from the UK.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by disgruntledphd2 on Friday October 02, 2020 @11:14AM (#24663474)
So yes and no. My parents are pretty old (they had kids late) and they really don't like telling revenue (the taxman) anything, and would be inclined to overlook tax avoidance and whatnot. My wife's parents are of a similar age, and also similar on this.

Now, all of them were born a generation after independence, so it's definitely not just that.

However, when the government has historically not given a crap about you (as the British government did not), it leads to a disconnect from the society and institutions that increases the probability that you'll be OK with tax dodging and not have as much trust in the overall society (because historically, it didn't care about you).

So, I'd say that it's slowly changing because we're not a colony anymore, but it definitely didn't just disappear in a puff of smoke in 1921.

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by handelaar on Sunday October 04, 2020 @12:42PM (#24680319)
It has rather less to do with post-colonialism than it does with having a very unethical dominant church for hundreds of years, honestly.

We're the only horrifically-bent country in northern Europe

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by disgruntledphd2 on Sunday October 04, 2020 @02:13PM (#24681020)
I'm sorry, what? Like I enjoy a bit of Irish-Catholic bashing as much as the next Irish person (probably more than most, given that I enjoy complaining about the Council of Nicea) but I don't really see how the pre-independence Catholic Church was unethical.

To be fair, though I'm not a fan of the authoritarianism, without the Catholic Church neither of my grand-parents or their parents would have had an education, and indeed the church was the centre of irish social life and community for a very long time.

Like, post-independence, the Church did a lot of dodgy things, but I really don't think you can blame the one organisation which actually provided some services for Irish catholics for our issues with authority.

And it's worth pointing out that much of the remaining corruption in Irish life is at the political level, rather than the bureaucratic level. As an example, you might bribe politicians to get planning permission for a large shopping centre, but you don't have to bribe the passport office for a renewal.

Can you give me some examples of Ireland being horrifically bent?

Edit: incidentally, thank you for Kildare Street!

Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by cpursley on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:15AM (#24662811)
Yep, Why Nations Fails talks about this a lot.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by dmurray on Friday October 02, 2020 @09:59AM (#24662660)
That could describe any country. Certainly Greece, India and Brazil wouldn't make it to the top of my list of countries I'd expect to see described that way.
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by mmmuhd on Friday October 02, 2020 @11:48AM (#24663828)
Yes i think Nigeria should come first in terms of those behaviors
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by Thorentis on Friday October 02, 2020 @09:25AM (#24662317)
Which countries mentioned so far are popularly regarded as "great"?
Re:One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020 by meshaneian on Friday October 02, 2020 @10:02AM (#24662685)
According to a reliable source - hat logos - there is a country that might someday rejoin that elite group. ("MAGA" political hats: "Make America Great Again". There is so much to read into that in the political climate.