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Re:Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads by logicallee on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @06:59AM (#24626193)
Let's play a hypothetical game. Your TV attempts to literally control your life. And is ultra HD and really cheap. But you have to keep its front facing camera uncovered or it blares an alarm saying that its front camera is covered. The alarm also activates, but more quietly, if it loses its internet connection.

Finally, there is a 30 second "sponsorship punishment" if it sees you have brought a product competing with its sponsor.

So say the sponsor is Coke and it sees a 2 liter bottle of pepsi in your home. It displays something literally equivalent to (not in exactly so many words) "we are punishing you for bringing pepsi into our home, because our sponsor is coke." It then counts down a 30 second punishment timer. As a shopper you dont have THAT strong of a preference between coke and pepsi. So the next time you need to watch a movie on the dictator (name of TV set) you buy coke that night instead of pepsi.

Does that cross a line? How would you legislate against it? Devices shall not act as slave owners over humans who have bought them?

Well, um....

Re:Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads by phone8675309 on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @09:11AM (#24627351)
Reminds me of a less ridiculous version of this: https://i.imgur.com/dgGvgKF.png
Re:Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads by logicallee on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @04:49PM (#24632805)
Interesting link. But what I have written is no less ridiculous!

On what grounds would a punishment timer be illegal?

Re:Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @07:22AM (#24626325)
>Finally, there is a 30 second "sponsorship punishment" if it sees you have brought a product competing with its sponsor.

There was literally a Black Mirror episode about something very similar.

Re:Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads by logicallee on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @08:20AM (#24626797)
yes, you're right. (Though I think it wasn't about a TV watching your food choices.) So what happens legally if, today, a company literally does it? How do you legislate against this?

It is literally possible for a television to include a punishment timer (as in, it is pretty trivial to code up, if the device isn't rooted.) What happens if a company sells one that literally identifies shopping and uses a punishment timer for people who buy a competitor to their sponsor instead of their sponsor? can you make it illegal?

Re:Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads by anticensor on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @12:25PM (#24629783)
That is definitely going to also happen on brain-computer interfaces.
Re:Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads by phone8675309 on Tuesday September 29, 2020 @06:13PM (#24633648)
Beefbrain is real, and you'll never convince me otherwise.