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Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by jimbob45 on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @10:41AM (#24567644)
https://imgur.com/XwyReNw

The above is a fairly interesting flowchart detailing where all of the core employees moved on to after leaving Blizzard. Some have met success, most have folded.

To me, the only employee that ever mattered was Chris Metzen. He was the one who developed the core of all of their stories and personally approved every quest in WoW. If you're going to try to get players to emotionally connect to characters and story arcs, I would think that the writer would be the best place to figure out how.

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by BossingAround on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @01:37PM (#24569712)
> If you're going to try to get players to emotionally connect to characters and story arcs, I would think that the writer would be the best place to figure out how.

I was fairly attached to WoW while never paying much attention to the superficial stories and quests. I did at first, but it honestly wasn't great from what I remember (the first WoW), and so I just focused on the gameplay and team work rather than the story.

Personally, I read books for the story, and play games for the mechanics.

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by yazaddaruvala on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @06:58PM (#24573229)
I would just play WoW focusing on similar things to you and then watch a youtube video for the lore :)
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by moomin on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @11:42AM (#24568354)
Disagree, the greatest story in the world won't save bad mechanics. I mean, Dark Souls has a lore people obsess about, but there's plenty of people with an emotional attachment to it with absolutely no clue what's going on.
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by mattmanser on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @12:33PM (#24568834)
A good example is Elex. It's got a good world/story, fun factions, it looks pretty good, exploration is interesting and fun. But the combat is horrific. Balancing is terrible. You'll find high level enemies right next to low level ones. The actual gameplay is so bad.

And you'll see it repeated over and over on the reviews on the steam page.

Some people claim it gets better if you stick with it, and I did because I was playing it over a holiday. My experience was they're wrong, it never gets better.

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by Sohcahtoa82 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @05:01AM (#24576698)
Likewise, interesting and fun mechanics don't necessarily create a fun game.

Take EVE Online. I love the ideas of the game. There are no rules (As long as you're not hacking/cheating) to what players can do. You can scam people. You can kill noobs (Though if you're in high-security space, you'll be instagibbed by CONCORD, essentially the space police). And the fact that losing your ship means its GONE means there's always a demand for crafted goods. Skills are learned over time whether you're playing or not, so you don't need to grind.

But...the actual gameplay is boring as hell [0].

[0] https://youtu.be/4c6jafaiPh8?t=66

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by moomin on Thursday September 24, 2020 @06:31AM (#24577170)
(ALWP) I mean, obviously plenty of people do love Eve Online, but the micro-mechanics shown in the video are awful. Compare to Dark Souls (again) where pretty much every combat is interesting (and has better be because you’re gonna redo it a lot until you crack it).

OTOH, I found the mechanics of the recent Spider-Man game kind of fun, but the macro game is just endless repetition. Which feels true of a lot of AAA games these days.

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by pdimitar on Thursday September 24, 2020 @07:44AM (#24577619)
The PS4 Spiderman is a gorgeous game with amazing combat and parkour!

Me and my wife both cringed really hard to the repetitiveness and the blandness of the characters however. Tons of plot inconsistencies!

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by moomin on Thursday September 24, 2020 @12:29PM (#24580359)
Grief, yes, I found it ridiculously hard to actually care about the characters. They should have had a plot where the villain was sucking all of the interesting out of people. Just travelling through the city was way more fun.
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by Fnoord on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @08:10PM (#24573821)
Caveat emptor: Flowchart is from 2011. Runic Games, for example, folded, and the Schaeffer brothers parted ways. Max founded Etchra. Otherwise informative, thanks for linking.
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by zacharycohn on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @11:53AM (#24568480)
The name text in that image is too small to read..
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by fareesh on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @02:14PM (#24570110)
Open the image in a new tab then you can zoom-in as much as you want. imgur is not showing the full zoomed in version
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by xenihn on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @06:47PM (#24573118)
How involved was he with Diablo 2? I don't know specifics, but I was disappointed by everything in Diablo 3, including the story, and I think that's due to the lack of the Blizzard North people.
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by nkrisc on Thursday September 24, 2020 @12:17AM (#24575203)
How old is this? Under Carbine Studios it says unnamed MMO but I have to imagine that is Wildstar and this is just very old.
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by delinquenz on Thursday September 24, 2020 @12:51PM (#24580669)
The chart says April 2011
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by throwawaynothx on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @11:36PM (#24574996)
I played wow in korean without being able to read any of the quests. just to have my warlock pet names in korean. story is not a big part of wow. ffxiv however..