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Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by moomin on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @11:42AM (#24568354)
Disagree, the greatest story in the world won't save bad mechanics. I mean, Dark Souls has a lore people obsess about, but there's plenty of people with an emotional attachment to it with absolutely no clue what's going on.
Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by mattmanser on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @12:33PM (#24568834)
A good example is Elex. It's got a good world/story, fun factions, it looks pretty good, exploration is interesting and fun. But the combat is horrific. Balancing is terrible. You'll find high level enemies right next to low level ones. The actual gameplay is so bad.

And you'll see it repeated over and over on the reviews on the steam page.

Some people claim it gets better if you stick with it, and I did because I was playing it over a holiday. My experience was they're wrong, it never gets better.

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by Sohcahtoa82 on Thursday September 24, 2020 @05:01AM (#24576698)
Likewise, interesting and fun mechanics don't necessarily create a fun game.

Take EVE Online. I love the ideas of the game. There are no rules (As long as you're not hacking/cheating) to what players can do. You can scam people. You can kill noobs (Though if you're in high-security space, you'll be instagibbed by CONCORD, essentially the space police). And the fact that losing your ship means its GONE means there's always a demand for crafted goods. Skills are learned over time whether you're playing or not, so you don't need to grind.

But...the actual gameplay is boring as hell [0].

[0] https://youtu.be/4c6jafaiPh8?t=66

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by moomin on Thursday September 24, 2020 @06:31AM (#24577170)
(ALWP) I mean, obviously plenty of people do love Eve Online, but the micro-mechanics shown in the video are awful. Compare to Dark Souls (again) where pretty much every combat is interesting (and has better be because you’re gonna redo it a lot until you crack it).

OTOH, I found the mechanics of the recent Spider-Man game kind of fun, but the macro game is just endless repetition. Which feels true of a lot of AAA games these days.

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by pdimitar on Thursday September 24, 2020 @07:44AM (#24577619)
The PS4 Spiderman is a gorgeous game with amazing combat and parkour!

Me and my wife both cringed really hard to the repetitiveness and the blandness of the characters however. Tons of plot inconsistencies!

Re:Blizzard cofounder launches new gaming endeavor Dreamhaven by moomin on Thursday September 24, 2020 @12:29PM (#24580359)
Grief, yes, I found it ridiculously hard to actually care about the characters. They should have had a plot where the villain was sucking all of the interesting out of people. Just travelling through the city was way more fun.