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Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @03:43AM (#24551949)
For me, some words and phrases sound better in one language than the other. So in my internal monologue, I often flip back and forth between Polish and English, sometimes multiple times in a single sentence. It feels like "the path of least resistance".

I also do that sometimes when talking, when I know the other person is proficient in English. Not everyone appreciates this, but some of the best conversations in my life were with a particular person who was like me in this regard; we'd just stream our thoughts to each other in this weird mix of Polish and English, that was hard to follow for anyone else.

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by sebmellen on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @05:59AM (#24552727)
I know the same feeling with English and German. It really is a wonderful thing. I think this would be called Code-switching [0].

> In linguistics, code-switching or language alternation occurs when a speaker alternates between two or more languages, or language varieties, in the context of a single conversation.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code-switching

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by 082349872349872 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @06:22AM (#24552845)
Wechseln even dans a fraza: http://www.europanto.be/cabillot1.html
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by spurgu on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @07:18AM (#24553182)
Haha.

Minä gör the same a menudo.

Yo teen det samma often.

I hago the same ofta.

Jag do lo mismo usein.

(FI/SV/EN/ES) :)

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by dontcarethrow2 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @09:53AM (#24554374)
Belta loda! You sound like your speaking the Belter slang from the scifi series The Expanse. Set a few hundred yrs into the future, slang used by the working class out mining the asteroid belts.
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by 082349872349872 on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @11:09AM (#24568005)
She she taki taki beltawala. Mi finyish vedi da lang belta da diye de.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCyGIJl1XUA

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by 082349872349872 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @10:19AM (#24554614)
Taki taki. TIL. Tolowda wanya pochuye fo walowda sowngit ke? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ULICEPpoLQ
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by 082349872349872 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @08:00AM (#24553467)
Wow, closest I can get to that mix is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VqUiSdd3yM , an english band interpreting a finnish tango.

Swedish will have to be separate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hdUKZLQIuQ

(Are you a finland-swede or sweden finn? If either of those, I'm a fan of both Army of Lovers and Nightwish.)

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by spurgu on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @11:06AM (#24555313)
Haha yes that Zappa gig is a classic!

"Swedish-speaking finn" or "Finland-swede" yes.

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by jointpdf on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @10:36AM (#24554864)
Y’all, stop. You’re confusing the hell out of GPT-4.
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @11:28AM (#24555624)
I hope they won't be training it on HN corpus, because I don't want an algorithm to spit out my own rants back at me...
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by OpticalWindows on Wednesday September 23, 2020 @08:58PM (#24574216)
Mi na du wanya wa robot fo du wating mi enjoy
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @07:25AM (#24553237)
It really is wonderful! Good to know there's an established term for that, thanks!
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by notdang on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @08:18AM (#24553596)
Now try to imagine instead of English, it's Russian? Switching from Polish to Russian. Will it be the same?
Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by 082349872349872 on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @09:15AM (#24554021)
Polish/ukrainian song lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxciyZEBkE (switching between stanzas, not phrases, however)

Amateur joint translation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24101696

(any native speakers care to say how close we came?)

(and notdang, on the off chance you're from somewhere around Moldova, what would you say the ethnicity of the girl in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24406864 might be? I think a woman from Moldova is the normal reading, but apparently there's also an Odessa neighbourhood called Moldavanka...)

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by TeMPOraL on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @11:33AM (#24555684)
I know a little bit of Russian so a random word or two sometimes sneak into my speech or thinking process. I imagine if I were fluent in Russian, I'd switch back and forth just as well. They're more similar to each other than Polish and English, but not that similar as to be bucketed as one language.

I've been thinking about this phenomenon a lot in the past and I've noticed that two main triggers are a) emotional payload of a phrase, and b) subtle differences in meaning of words. Some phrases sound better to me in English than in Polish, and it's probably driven by the context in which I've learned them. As for words, it's often the case that even if a word in Polish corresponds directly to a word in English by dictionary, their etymologies and general use patterns draw slightly different borders in thingspace. Sometimes that distinction is important, and I automatically pick the language in which the word is closer to what I mean.

Re:What Is the Sound of Thought? by notdang on Tuesday September 22, 2020 @09:51PM (#24562127)
Not sure what are the sentiments in Poland, but in a couple of ex-USSR countries mixing Russian and the local language is regarded as a very bad taste. This applies exclusively to Russian.