It's not mindless it's just he's lying about what he values

Yep, that is another way of putting it.

Exactly. He's just using keywords like monopoly and stuff to gather support.

And overall I don't understand why people take sides in corporate battles like any of those mega corporations stand for morals or the greater good or anything like that.

Because one side of this dispute benefits us as customers. It's that simple.

One side benefits some customers, the other benefits other customers.

If you don't like having choices and you think choices are bad for people then perhaps you'd prefer to live in a place like China.

This lawsuit is taking place in the USA where people overwhelmingly value freedom of choice.

Speaking of China - Apple gave the Chinese government their own app store. Perhaps Epic should point that out as well. It would make for a great headline: Apple gives China their own app store, but not US!

Mate, I think Epic are bad guys doing the good guys’ work. Apple needs to be taken down a peg in the interest of the whole market, and sadly the only ones volunteering for the job are scumbags themselves. In the end there will probably be victims on both sides no matter what, because it’s always about the dollar and never about the consumer, sadly.

For someone who preaches choice so much, you sure are against going with a different choice like, say, Android.

Not at all. I have and use both because half of my customers use one and the other half uses the other.

That’s the problem though. When half of the people in United States have no choice but to leave their digital home in order to get some rights to use their own equipment without begging Apple... that needs to change.

That other half has the option to replace their phones if they happen to be so pissed off with Apple.

No. If half the population would be forced to leave their digital home in order to make things right, the landlord is at fault.

Let's not extrapolate your personal feelings on an entire population. The vast, vast majority of Apple users are very satisfied with their experience as evidenced by consumer satisfaction ratings.

Competition benefits customers. There is no competition for pricing on the AppStore, ergo the pricing is more or less free (A monopoly).

The store itself is so big as to be it's own market, and as such Apple shouldn't be allowed to use monopolistic practices even though they created the market themselves.

I agree wholeheartedly, and I sincerely hope that this process will end with Apple opening up. I just don’t think either side is completely devoid of consumer support for their practices.

Which one and how? And how are you sure they're not just faking it?

Because some corporations actually do make efforts towards improving society: https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/ https://www.apple.com/environment/

Some corporations are shamed into doing the right thing, typically after an extensive period of morality-free cash-hoarding. Apple was just fine with their supply chain until news emerged of conditions down there (and Cook being a logistic guy, he’s clearly always known), at which point they hd to save face. Similarly, they keep saying they are green but have no qualms pushing out billions of unrecycleable and un-serviceable electronics every year, without taking any real responsibility for disposing of them.

Corporate ethics are hypocrisy all the way down.

I'm an Apple fan but the AirPods are a pretty decent counterpoint to Apple being 'green'.