Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by xnx on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:20AM
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There's so much good meta-data (likes, comments, duration, sound used, views, like/view ratio, skips, loops, subscribes, etc.) that I'd be surprised if they were digging into the contents of the video at all right now.
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Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by dannyw on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:52AM
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Bytedance has thousands of the smartest data scientists in China.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by rvnx on Thursday September 10, 2020 @05:51PM
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Bytedance has thousands of Manual Labor specialists as well.
Using ML it is very easy to tag videos.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by jakear on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:22AM
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They could also be digging only into audio, doing speech recognition on it, then clustering the text. Augment that with the text users have put into the video directly using the in-app editor and you have some pretty solid data.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by ramimac on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:37AM
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If that were true, it'd be interesting to see if they push out support for close-captioning. It's an accessibility push, but also would leverage a lot of the same capabilities...
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by novok on Thursday September 10, 2020 @02:52PM
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I would also start doing image recognition in the video frames, to extract things like gender, objects, etc.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by thekyle on Thursday September 10, 2020 @06:49PM
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Would this have any advantage over just using video embeddings (or a sequence of frame embeddings?) which in theory should capture those things in vectorized form.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by wombatmobile on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:09AM
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> I'd be surprised if they were digging into the contents of the video at all right now.
Why would you be surprised to learn TikTok is doing video content analysis?
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by blueblisters on Thursday September 10, 2020 @03:17PM
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It can be a) very expensive b) also very difficult to implement.
Video understanding is an active field of research and I'm not sure state of the art is there yet for capturing nuance like engagement potential, categories etc.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by wombatmobile on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:59PM
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State of the art where? College? Silicone Valley? Bangalore? Shanghai? Beijing? Hangzhou?
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by blueblisters on Friday September 11, 2020 @03:02AM
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State of the art in academia, which is largely location agnostic.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by xnx on Thursday September 10, 2020 @07:29PM
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Google was able to build a very useful search engine that ran for decades relying on the significance of links and keywords, without much understanding of the meaning of page content. You can get very far with the readily available data, before you need to delve into the fancy stuff to make it a few percent better.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by btilly on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:33AM
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They claim to be looking at the music in the video and avoiding sending you to another video with the same music.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by Drew_ on Thursday September 10, 2020 @12:35PM
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That would be the "sound used". The music in the video is specified/labeled before upload so there's no need to actually process the sound of the video.
Re:TikTok reveals details of how its algorithm works
by srean on Thursday September 10, 2020 @12:19PM
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Almost all of those applies to YouTube, do they not ?