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Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by octopoc on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @09:50AM (#24408297)
Do you have a link for that? I've been listening to his Napoleon podcast and he seems left-leaning to me. They do talk about politics from time to time.
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by mikece on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @09:59AM (#24408410)
No Agenda is primarily media deconstruction. If you believe the media are telling you the truth, the full truth, and nothing but the truth then you'll hate the podcast.
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @10:03AM (#24408442)
Note to others: this is just the line they reiterate on the show itself.
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by mistermann on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @10:38AM (#24408838)
It is that, but not just that - it is also true (to some degree).

Or, are you under the impression that the media is truly independent and always tells the full truth in an unbiased manner, that no alternative media organization has ever legitimately exposed even a single mainstream narrative that was less than truthful?

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @11:11AM (#24409191)
Yeah I reckon you can't call one podcast an alt right conspiracy spew without believing "the media is truly independent and always tells the full truth in an unbiased manner, that no alternative media organization has ever legitimately exposed even a single mainstream narrative that was less than truthful."
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by mikece on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @12:13PM (#24409819)
It seems you conflate "deviating from mainstream media" as being alt-right. I'm sure people like Amy Goodman, Cenk Uygur, Tim Pool, and Ezra Klein would be surprised to learn this puts them firmly in the alt-right. In fact, thinking the mainstream is useless doesn't betoken right or left, only that what the major networks are saying doesn't correspond with reality on the ground.
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @01:40PM (#24410718)
You’ve defined No Agenda or Curry as just being “deviating from mainstream media,” decided that is what I must mean by alt-right, and worked yourself up into a lather about it.

How you can determine what I am or am not conflating based on my statement about a single media property and the guy behind it is beyond me.

We get it. You’re a fan. You don’t want to be a fan of an alt right guy. That’s your conundrum to work out, not mine.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by markkanof on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @04:01PM (#24412463)
Then why don't you actually state what it is about Adam Curry that makes him alt-right in your mind. You have not done that yet.
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:14PM (#24413472)
I've said it several times. Grab an episode of No Agenda and give it a listen. Alternatively, check out any of the times he has filled in for Alex Jones on Infowars; a quick Google turns up the August 9, 2017 episode.
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by markkanof on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @06:14PM (#24414184)
I've listened to every episode of No Agenda since maybe 2008 or so. Yes, I am a fan, so biased, but I see no real evidence of him fitting any definition of alt-right, but again, since you haven't actually defined what you mean by that or given any concrete examples, I have to assume you are just trolling. Seems wrong though to throw someone into that category since these days many people use the term alt-right as a synonym for racist or Nazi.
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Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by nailer on Thursday September 10, 2020 @09:55AM (#24432373)
> Its pretty clear why you're here

Because you made up a serious accusation about someone, repeated it frequently, can't provide evidence to back it up, and that's disgusting?

> I haven't seen someone brag about their seniority on a website

Me neither! Who did that?

You seem to have confused me pointing out that your don't conform to expected behavior (because you don't) and saying you're new here (because you are) with bragging. It's just pointing out you're a bad person.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Thursday September 10, 2020 @10:29AM (#24432680)
>can't provide evidence to back it up

Have. Not your personal researcher.

>...don't conform to expected behavior...

And yet, my initial comment is doing just fine despite your suggestions people flag it. Hmm.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by nailer on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:18AM (#24433115)
No you haven't. you haven't provided a single link as we've all pointed out.

Comment moderation isn't a measure of ethics.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:37AM (#24433299)
>Comment moderation isn't a measure of ethics.

I thought this was about the expectations of a user on here? Now its about ethics? You must have strong legs to do all this jumping. You should try just saying what you mean the first time.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by nailer on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:53AM (#24433451)
If you don't understand, lying is wrong. Literally everyone from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24408123 has said this is a baseless accusation and your replied have confirmed it is baseless. We expect you to be make substantive arguments and always have.
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Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by dang on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:20PM (#24445709)
Did you miss https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24439378?

We don't want to have to ban you. Help us out and please stop and don't do this again.

Also, your recent comments have clearly been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle. That is also against HN's rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Please don't do that.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by mistermann on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @03:32PM (#24412094)
Why not? It's a plausible (not impossible) state of reality, is it not?

I was just asking, as there are people that truly seem to believe the "mainstream" media is indeed truthful. Some of my relatives, for example.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by core-questions on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @03:42PM (#24412201)
Like many things in this vein you have to look past Curry and Dvorak's own speculative editorialization from time to time, but the actual analysis of the media is very enlightening. You can make your own reactions to the clips they highlight; that's the key thing, to develop the mindset of having a critical eye for what you're being told - and in what format, and with what narrative tricks.

Some people think that this means they're "alt right", but all that means is that they don't know what "alt right" actually is at all. Both Curry and Dvorak are very classically liberal people, American individualists or perhaps libertarians, which is a totally different political theory than fascism. Of course, most people have no idea what "fascism" is, which is why they feel comfortable calling Totalitarian Liberalism fascism as though there were no differences.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by 7952 on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @07:17PM (#24414792)
That's a lot of semantics. It doesn't really make any difference how they are categorised. And it's perfectly possible for someone with liberal sensibilities to be corrupted. In fact that seems to be the theme of the show.

No Agenda does encourage you to think about the news in a more nuanced way. But it deliberately supresses nuance in how it discusses the people in the news. Most of the people they discuss are not given any benefit of the doubt ever. That is not enlightening at all.

Ultimately I think there style has far more to do with feeding the community and generating donations than anything political.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:04PM (#24413358)
You made a little feint there in your second sentence of the second paragraph -- who said anything about fascism? I suspect it might be you that doesn't know what alt-right means in your confusion between the two. That would also explain your waving away the reality that classical liberalism underpins much of the alt-right movement. You might notice many folks espousing the views of one Ayn Rand, for example.

Beyond that, and returning to the actual subject at hand, there is very little "deconstruction" -- to the extent that is a thing, in the show. Perhaps in the early days. It has long since devolved in to a Trump apologist show, regurgitating Fox News and Breitbart talking points. You need only look to see where else Curry has appeared.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by core-questions on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @05:43PM (#24413829)
> who said anything about fascism

The alt-right is basically fascism, no? I don't mean in the normal online accusatory fashion, I mean in the "literally fans of Mussolini" fashion.

Or maybe we mean two different groups of people? I'm thinking of the folks involved with Charlottesville, etc. as opposed to the "alt lite" which is Ben Shapiro / Sargon / Cernovich and their ilk, who are distinct in the sense that they ostensibly disavow racism etc. and are more classical liberalists.

> , there is very little "deconstruction" -- to the extent that is a thing, in the show

That's a matter of opinion, I guess? I agree it has devolved since 2016, but there's still the occasional gem in there.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by dguaraglia on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @09:30PM (#24415752)
Don't believe their narrative. Go back to any episode in the 2009/2016 range and you'll notice a significant difference on the amount of time they spent discussing politics and criticizing the government vs. just 'deconstructing' the media. Weirdly - for a media deconstruction podcast - they rarely had any criticism of right-wing media, they even came to an agreement at some point about explicitly ignoring right-wing media.

The 'purely media deconstruction' script was adopted when a Republican they liked became president. Suddenly the show became exclusively about criticizing the media's coverage of the Trump administration and all criticism of government was dropped or became about 'optics'.

Someone with a cynical streak would conclude that they always had an agenda.

Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by nailer on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @12:07AM (#24417014)
Sure but the thread is about whether this person is alt right, not whether they are conservative.
Re:Adam Curry launches a new, open podcast directory by leahey on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @09:52AM (#24408329)
Grab a No Agenda episode at random and give it a spin.