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Re:Winamp Skin Museum by bluedays on Friday September 04, 2020 @11:52AM (#24376051)
Electron hate is starting to become such a meme lately.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by Karunamon on Friday September 04, 2020 @11:56AM (#24376088)
Many would argue that Electron itself is a meme. An unfunny one that gets repeated at the user’s expense ad nauseam.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by azinman2 on Friday September 04, 2020 @01:12PM (#24376819)
Isn’t VSCode electron? Somehow Microsoft ended up with an electron app that doesn’t have all the hallmarks of what people complain about. What was done differently?
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by reaperducer on Friday September 04, 2020 @01:18PM (#24376891)
One of the biggest things people complain about with Electron apps is their slowness.

When I started using VSCode, it was perfectly snappy and I could see what people were talking about when they said, "But VSCode is Electron, and it's fine — it's just crappy developers."

After about six months of using it and loading in fewer than ten extensions, it has become very laggy. To the point that I have had to train myself to pause my typing after I press certain key combinations while the system catches up.

VSCode is great, but it's not a poster child for Electron.

Re:Winamp Skin Museum by fiddlerwoaroof on Friday September 04, 2020 @01:36PM (#24377075)
Yeah, VSCode did that thing where a great product seems to just become worse, for no obvious reason.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by isochronous on Friday September 04, 2020 @04:20PM (#24378507)
The reason IS obvious: It's called "feature bloat." That being said, unless you install a bunch of extensions, VS Code is still pretty snappy, at least on all of my computers.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by Karunamon on Friday September 04, 2020 @01:18PM (#24376898)
Probably as something made for developers, it was created to be fast and efficient and avoid sucking down inordinate amounts of resources.

Rather than the usual reason electron apps get made, which is because they’re “easy” and allow web-first devs to put out acceptable-quality desktop apps with no mind paid to those same concerns.

It is entirely possible to release good software with electron. It is also entirely possible to win the lottery.

(Bitter and annoyed? Me?)

Re:Winamp Skin Museum by Narishma on Saturday September 05, 2020 @10:20AM (#24383718)
> Probably as something made for developers, it was created to be fast and efficient and avoid sucking down inordinate amounts of resources.

That's not a given. Just look at the bloated monstrosity that is Visual Studio.

Re:Winamp Skin Museum by jbay808 on Friday September 04, 2020 @03:03PM (#24377892)
I once couldn't start VSCode because my internet was offline. Turns out it was an electron bug. (This issue: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/7570 ). I've been suspicious of electron ever since.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by mattgreenrocks on Friday September 04, 2020 @01:22PM (#24376928)
They cared?

Desktop is fundamentally a different medium from web. It's a pipe dream to expect the web mentality to just transfer over. It's akin to saying a webdev is a great gamedev because they can write code.

Re:Winamp Skin Museum by reaperducer on Friday September 04, 2020 @01:15PM (#24376866)
Electron hate is starting to become such a meme lately.

I used to think the same thing until a couple of weeks ago when an Electron app crashed and took down every other Electron app on my computer. I thought these things were supposed to be sandboxed.

Re:Winamp Skin Museum by potta_coffee on Friday September 04, 2020 @01:12PM (#24376826)
It just runs contrary to a lot of people's ideals for software. I don't spend my time thinking about Electron much but I don't care for it either. I guess it just rankles that it's really the easiest cross-platform solution we have.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by bluedays on Friday September 04, 2020 @07:20PM (#24379906)
Just feels like a cheap way to get Internet karma to compare old apps to modern apps made with Electron.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by mosselman on Saturday September 05, 2020 @04:08PM (#24386507)
So it’s cheap to say that old-Winamp does the same with let’s say 1-10% of the resources that a remake in electron does? How so? Isn’t it interesting from a historical perspective? Can’t we learn from history? If anything history could be an anchor point for where we can go back to or it can tell us that if we just try harder we can achieve more. How is that cheap? If anything it is powerful to keep reminding ourselves that we can do better as an industry and that we shouldn’t settle for mediocrity.
Re:Winamp Skin Museum by bluedays on Monday September 07, 2020 @09:51PM (#24404541)
It's interesting until you see the 10th comment comparing some old software against Electron. Then it comes meme-y.