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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by one_electron on Sunday August 30, 2020 @11:47AM (#24323605)
genuine question (asking because i have a biased perspective): why dont you consider advances in ai to be a major shift? in the past decade, there has been a rapid increase in capabilities in computer vision, language understanding, robotics, etc.
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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by opencl on Sunday August 30, 2020 @02:37PM (#24324872)
The technology has advanced a lot but what major changes have these advances in AI really made to the average person's life? I can't think of any that are anywhere near as dramatic as the invention of cars/air travel/the internet/smartphones.
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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by Ericson2314 on Sunday August 30, 2020 @05:18PM (#24326006)
AI is largely used for surveillance and advertising. Great.
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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by criddell on Sunday August 30, 2020 @03:29PM (#24325242)
AI researchers have been over-promising and under-delivering for 70 years now.

It seems like AI has settled into making discriminators. Maybe intelligence really is just pattern matching and grouping? I don't think it is, but I could be wrong.

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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by ghaff on Sunday August 30, 2020 @04:48PM (#24325822)
Many cognitive scientists would argue that it's also about building models which include statistical/Bayesian models but more than that.

To your broader point, it's not hard to find some specific domains of machine learning where there have been huge advances. But zoom out and look at the broader picture and the results aren't so impressive.

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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by petra on Sunday August 30, 2020 @03:45PM (#24325381)
It doesn't seem that AI and robotics over-promise. Sure, we're not at AGI, but if you look at the potential(i.e. startups) to replace jobs, there are tons of that.
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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by criddell on Sunday August 30, 2020 @04:12PM (#24325555)
The same was said of expert systems in the 1980’s. Yes, there’s potential, but that potential hasn’t been realized yet. At least not to the point where people compare the impact of AI to the impact of semi-conductors and integrated circuits.
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Re:The rise and fall of the industrial R&D lab by petra on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:12AM (#24328915)
It will take time. Like every big innovation.

The question is: will the potential be fullfiled.

Maybe, given the many startups doing real work with machine learning(besides the many that just hype), it's reasonable to guess that that the potential Will be fullfiled.

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