Re:Portland passes low-density zoning reform
by ajmurmann on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:23PM
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Maybe once we have the problems, people will accept the solution
Re:Portland passes low-density zoning reform
by freeone3000 on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:34PM
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We need to make driving suck so much that people would rather take the bus.
Re:Portland passes low-density zoning reform
by asdff on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @06:17PM
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Or make the bus suck less. Curbed bus lanes with fat fines for violators would do more to change urban America than anything else; a de facto revival of the streetcar. Why drive through the gridlock at 7mph when the bus is going 35mph right past you?
Re:Portland passes low-density zoning reform
by imtringued on Thursday August 27, 2020 @03:53AM
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It would certainly be cheaper than anything that is rail based.
Re:Portland passes low-density zoning reform
by rfrey on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @05:35PM
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It's not "making" driving suck, it's allowing driving to suck as a result of market forces. We could stop forcing restrictions on property owners that prevent the natural, market-driven move to mass transit as density increases.
Re:Portland passes low-density zoning reform
by triceratops on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:38PM
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This but unironically.
Re:Portland passes low-density zoning reform
by xyhopguy on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @05:59PM
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densify portland -> improve tax revenue -> improve transit.
nyc certainly benefited from aristocrats and lax labor laws when building the subway, but this isnt something that is impossible for portland. trimet is already huge for a city as small as portland. improving density will only help transit services.
it doesnt have to be subways -- the willamette flood plain isnt great for subways anyway. portland should continue to build out its bus service and cycling infrastructure. portland is already pretty reasonable for living without a car, it will only improve with density.
Listen, I am on the same page as you - I would love for it to happen. I would vote for it. I would pay taxes for it. But the reality is that it isn't going to happen, and if you densify the city without the transit, you will have these problems.