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Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by georgeecollins on Monday August 24, 2020 @06:21PM (#24266203)
If that were true, everyone with a very high IQ would be a great poker player, a great negotiator, a great writer, a great leader, a great investor.. etc.

IQ is as proxy for problem solving if the problems look like a standardized test. The problems people face in the real world require more specialization and a more complex combination of skills and traits.

Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by gucciTheWizard on Monday August 24, 2020 @06:28PM (#24266264)
IQ is a general measure for pattern recognition. Most modern IQ tests are heavily dependent of things like ravens matrices.

Pattern recognition in obviously helpful when problem solving.

Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by nassimslab on Monday August 24, 2020 @08:49PM (#24267143)
Is IQ really legit? I heard form Nassim Nicholas Taleb that the math used by psychologist is weak.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by wesleywt on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:40AM (#24268669)
It's not. It was originally used to find profoundly disabled children. But know extended to be the be all and end all of intelligence. It's weak science.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by anthonypasq on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @09:48AM (#24282411)
its legit in the sense that is a huge variable in predicting general life success/educational attainment.

if you think those outcomes are decent proxies for intelligence then IQ is useful

Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by james_s_tayler on Monday August 24, 2020 @07:08PM (#24266523)
Well... There is fluid intelligence and crystalized intelligence.

What you're pointing out is that crystalized intelligence is what matters.

Fluid intelligence mediates the ability to gain crystalized intelligence.

Higher IQ in theory means you should get further faster. Though even without if you are dedicated enough to obtain the same level of crystalized intelligence you might be able to do so. I suspect at some point the cognitive ceilings are different, but who knows by how much.

Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by MaximumYComb on Monday August 24, 2020 @06:31PM (#24266286)
IQ is one of the strongest predictors we have for many life outcomes, such as career success, wealth, lower risk of death. This doesn't mean "everyone with a very high IQ will blah blah blah" but it does mean that those with high IQs are more likely to achieve certain things.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by popinman322 on Monday August 24, 2020 @08:04PM (#24266882)
Strongest predictor taken from a pool of weak predictors is still a weak predictor.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by read_if_gay_ on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @03:07AM (#24268797)
I might be pulling things out of my ass here but IIRC the correlation is up there with that of your parents’ wealth. And in current political discussion lots of time is spent on how to deal with the latter. It may in fact still be a weak predictor, but that obviously doesn’t make it meaningless.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by collyw on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @03:52AM (#24269041)
IQ is somewhat inheritable as well though. Is it IQ or inherited wealth that is the factor?
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by MaximumYComb on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @06:17AM (#24269791)
The studies account for wealth.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by wesleywt on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @02:39AM (#24268662)
IQ is one of those myths smart people love.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by SuoDuanDao on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @08:24AM (#24270592)
I'm having trouble parsing this - is it a mark of stupidity not to believe in IQ or is IQ a lie that mostly hoodwinks smart people?
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by lowiqengineer on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @12:46AM (#24268184)
What should I do if I know i have a low IQ?
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by barry-cotter on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @03:59AM (#24269081)
Please stop. Your self pity is annoying. You have an engineering degree. There’s no way you’re not in the top quintile of intelligence and you’re probably in the top decile. Enough of the pity party. If you hate yourself go join a boxing club or start running marathons or something else that will put the petty bullshit of work life in perspective besides the fact that you’re young and you have a beautiful, working body.
Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by DoreenMichele on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @12:50AM (#24268202)
First, understand that IQ tests can be biased and can shaft minorities. Second, they are tools and are only as good as the person making use of them.

Third, eat right, exercise, live right, etc. Performance is impacted by health and even supposedly high IQ people will perform worse if they are sick, short of sleep, etc.

IQ isn't a useless concept, but I'm somewhat well versed in the history of IQ tests, etc, and it's got a lot of issues with it.

Re:Being OK with not being extraordinary by ZephyrBlu on Monday August 24, 2020 @07:12PM (#24266554)
Time put in still matters no matter how smart you are.

I think a person with a high IQ could be a great poker OR a great negotiator OR a great writer. Perhaps 2-3 total.