US Border Patrol says they can create central repository of traveler emails

Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by aneutron on Sunday August 23, 2020 @12:27PM (#24253014)

Well, in theory, yes. In practice, there have been recorded instances where the US Government has asked people to disclose their social media [1] and in other ones (I failed to find the source) refused access to people who refused to log into their accounts.

Also, if you're a non-american traveler, all the constitutional rights you're afforded as an American don't apply. So they can pretty much ask whatever and refuse you access for any reason.

It's like the US is becoming more and more like China. But it's a worlwide trend, really, with old men screaming "We're gonna be in the dark !" ... It's thoroughly depressing.

Edit: As written down in the comments, the part about foreigners' rights is wrong. See comment for correction.

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14066082/us-customs-bord...

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Sunday August 23, 2020 @01:00PM (#24253287)

>if you're a non-american traveler, all the constitutional rights you're afforded as an American don't apply.

False

https://www.maniatislawoffice.com/blog/2018/08/do-non-citize...

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by yibg on Sunday August 23, 2020 @04:08PM (#24254886)

But can’t they just deny you entry? I mean you can have all the rights but if they can just let you in (especially if you live in the US), that’s still a pretty big lever.

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by aneutron on Sunday August 23, 2020 @01:11PM (#24253389)

Thank you, I was under the misconception that as a foreigner I wasn't afforded these right s.

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by iso947 on Sunday August 23, 2020 @02:44PM (#24254226)

Many Americans don’t get those rights in practice - although I don’t think there have been any cases of the third ammendment being broken recently.

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by samatman on Sunday August 23, 2020 @04:18PM (#24254965)

In fact, the Third Amendment came up recently, when some hotels in Washington DC kicked the National Guard out.

Their right to do so wasn't challenged, so there's one plank of the Bill of Rights which hasn't rotted through...

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by iso947 on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @09:46AM (#24271269)

I’ve always considered America’s uniform worship to make the 3rd irellevent, I guess it goes to show that ensuring rights via law is good even if you think it unnecceraary

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by HappyDreamer on Sunday August 23, 2020 @03:30PM (#24254593)

With "refused access", you mean those people weren't allowed to enter the US?

They had to stop at the border, and take the next flight back home?

(But what would happen, if one didn't disclose one's social media accounts and other things, when leaving the US)

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by grishka on Sunday August 23, 2020 @08:39PM (#24256595)

I've been to the US and there's no passport control whatsoever when you leave. You don't ever see a border guard on your way out — you go through security at the airport and then straight to the gate.

The real problem is that they now require social media handles on the visa application.

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by mrunkel on Monday August 24, 2020 @02:51AM (#24258085)

Not 100% true. There are random and targeted searches of people boarding flights and requests for ID from CBP officers.

The usual reason given is searches for large sums of cash.

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Re:US Border Patrol says they can create central repository ... by dragonwriter on Sunday August 23, 2020 @12:41PM (#24253132)

> Well, in theory, yes.

No, it's not true in theory, either.

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