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Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by formerly_proven on Monday August 17, 2020 @04:48PM (#24191875)
This level of customer-hostility would cause a huge uproar for any other "Pro" or "workstation" vendor.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by JoelTheSuperior on Monday August 17, 2020 @06:47PM (#24193174)
Indeed and it's this utter nonsense that made me finally give in and switch to Windows. Turns out it's nicer than I thought.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by beamatronic on Monday August 17, 2020 @07:36PM (#24193566)
But which version do you run? The only version I would consider currently is the Enterprise version of Windows 10.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by trissylegs on Monday August 17, 2020 @07:48PM (#24193649)
I have both pro (Home desktop) and enterprise (Work laptop). I don't notice a difference. But we don't really take advantage of the group policy very much.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by Alupis on Monday August 17, 2020 @08:18PM (#24193888)
It used to be Home versions couldn't get more "Enterprise" features, like full partition encryption and the ability to join a Domain. Naturally GPO doesn't apply to a home user.

These days, I run Pro on pretty much everything and don't seem to miss anything. Perhaps "Enterprise" comes with less Candy Crush and other bloatware pre-installed?

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by jjeaff on Monday August 17, 2020 @09:38PM (#24194433)
I don't think there is any difference between pro And enterprise except for some of the ways licensing is implemented and some group policy stuff.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by trissylegs on Friday August 21, 2020 @07:09AM (#24233875)
Now that i've check it seems Enterpise get's the feature sof Pro for Workstations. https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/windowsforbusiness/compare
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by Teknoman117 on Monday August 17, 2020 @08:44PM (#24194086)
I used to use Pro so I could use NFS with Windows.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by chromedev on Monday August 17, 2020 @06:21PM (#24192934)
Apple fans seem okay with this and also not being able to install apps outside the app store.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by Polylactic_acid on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @03:01AM (#24195968)
Its usually less that they are ok with these problems and more that the alternatives have even more problems. Most OEMs copied apples designs so everything is shit. Rather than taking your laptop to the local apple store you now have to send it off to china and face all the same problems.

Windows also isn't useful for productivity and linux is only viable for certain jobs.

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by wjdp on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @07:15AM (#24197339)
We buy Lenovo ThinkPads for work. We pay a bit more (not that much, like £50 a laptop I think) for the warranty package. When something goes wrong they send a tech out who repairs it onsite. More minor things like hard drive issues they just ship us a new NVMe drive and we swap it.

I think the techs work for IBM, weird they still keep this bit.

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by detaro on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @06:14AM (#24197003)
> Rather than taking your laptop to the local apple store you now have to send it off to china

For "pro-grade" laptops Apple is the odd one out by not offering on-site warranty repairs at all, instead requiring you to travel somewhere.

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by meditative on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @06:10AM (#24196979)
> Windows also isn't useful for productivity

Can you expand on this? I think it's the contrarian position to be taking here.

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by Polylactic_acid on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @07:36PM (#24205608)
There are so many anti features in windows. They seem to change all the time and depend on what version of windows you have but the main ones are forced updates that can't be done while you use the computer, MS teams poping up and nagging you to sign up when you never installed or use it, adverts in the start menu, dark patterns in the setup page making it tricky to not register a microsoft account. And whatever flavour of the month anti feature windows includes.

Its getting slightly better with the the new WSL but its still not as good as OSX and linux.

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by chromedev on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @06:44AM (#24197163)
I use Linux fine and it is a requirement that I be able to run Linux before accepting a job. When it comes to Android though, they already allow external apps through a security permission that I use for F-Droid and sometimes other apps outside of F-Droid, like Kodi on my Fire TV.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by Polylactic_acid on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @07:45PM (#24205671)
I didn't say it wasn't fine. I use it as well but I work in one of those jobs where it works fine. You aren't going to use linux if your job is video editing or CAD.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by somehnguy on Monday August 17, 2020 @08:50PM (#24194122)
What gives you that idea?

When my Macbook battery ballooned up on me I just replaced it myself. It's not hard at all and can be done in 15 minutes, I have no idea why people in tech take their machines to repair places to do it.

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by zaarn on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @02:18AM (#24195805)
There is plenty of people who lack the skill or ability to do fine repairs. Especially with batteries, if you have no idea what you're doing, it can easily lead to insurances not paying in case you do get injured or damage something.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by xhruso00 on Monday August 17, 2020 @10:00PM (#24194536)
Because people want a genuine part (reliable battery). I would pay the price if the battery was max 200eur. Nope, Apple is greedy. In my case they wanted 400Eur (together with top case)
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by somehnguy on Monday August 17, 2020 @10:23PM (#24194648)
So buy a genuine battery then? They aren't hard to find and are under $100.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by shaan7 on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @12:45AM (#24195355)
Wait, it is possible to get a genuine* battery replacement for an Apple device? And no, I'm not being sarcastic, my friend was told by an Apple Store that even an attempt to open the Macbook chassis voids warranty. They refused to replace the battery EVEN WHEN HE WAS READY TO PAY "because there was an unauthorized attempt to open the device". He finally had to go to a repair shop and get it done under an hour (because now the warranty was void anyway).

genuine = guaranteed by Apple to not break your warranty

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by xhruso00 on Tuesday August 18, 2020 @01:19AM (#24195543)
There is no genuine original battery on the market. Only option to get it is from Apple for 400eur. Every seller is lying about originality.
Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by somehnguy on Sunday August 23, 2020 @12:39AM (#24249558)
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck...well who cares if it calls itself a swan.

Anyone paying $400 for battery is out of their minds. My $100 apparently ‘fake’ battery performs identical as the one Apple sells. Who cares at that point.

Re:Apple expands independent repair program to Mac after US ... by anoncake on Wednesday August 19, 2020 @02:44AM (#24207825)
Apple "fans" are less bothered by this than they would be bothered by the problems of the alternatives. Or they are locked into the ecosystem.