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Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by sadmann1 on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:50PM (#24165473)
So, what is there left to do?
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by mhh__ on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:28PM (#24165661)
1) Get the White House (and the rest of the state) under non-climate denying control. The USA has to do better - per capita emissions are something like 4 or 5 times worse than the UK (for example). Any form of moral leadership would be nice from the Republican Party would be nice (The Statistics are depressingly split over party lines https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2019/11/25/u-s-public-vi...)

2) Carbon Taxes everywhere

3) Eliminate coal power from the developing world, even if it means switching to gas in the short term.

4) CCS - current efforts already seem surprisingly doable (single digit trillions IIRC)

Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by alacombe on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:35PM (#24165686)
> 2) Carbon Taxes everywhere

Which was locally recently show to be ineffective - https://biv.com/article/2020/08/bc-carbon-tax-ineffective-ce...

Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by mhh__ on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:47PM (#24165741)
> It would be more effective in curbing emissions if it were higher, she said

https://phys.org/news/2020-01-british-carbon-tax-coal-fired-...

There is at least some evidence of success in the UK (combined with other policy + economic reality). Our climate policy is probably the only thing the government have done well recently - dwarfed by the impending iceberg of Brexit.

Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by imtringued on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:23AM (#24169510)
Your article specifically says that emissions would have risen faster without the carbon tax.

The article also clearly mentions that the ineffectiveness is caused by the fact that the carbon tax is too low.

Come on if you're going to link an article then don't pick one that is showing a different picture than your comment. All it showed is that governments refuse to implement effective policies, not that the concept of a carbon tax itself is flawed.

Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by danbolt on Saturday August 15, 2020 @12:04AM (#24165823)
I'm reading the article, and one of the researchers (Dinara Millington) suggests increasing the Carbon Taxes to make them more effective.
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by ultrablack on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:01AM (#24166378)
Exactly: researchers promoting policy. This why people are sceptic.
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by omosubi on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:11PM (#24165575)
There have been calls to put sulfur dioxide into the air above the artic to reduce sunlight about 2% and limit the amount of energy that reaches it. Sounds like we'll need to do something like that if we don't want to turn places like Florida and southern Vietnam into ocean
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by dylan604 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:40PM (#24165710)
Yes, there's exactly 0% chance that this ends badly. I don't know why the lady swallowed the dog to chase the cat to catch the bird to eat the spider...
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by omosubi on Saturday August 15, 2020 @07:38AM (#24168139)
I'm not saying it's a good idea, just that it's a proposed solution. We'll need to do something rather drastic if we want to have any chance of saving the world as it is today
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by jsmith12673 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:17PM (#24165610)
For this to be effective you'll need:

- Global agreement and partnership, since you need to decrease temperature globally to make a dent

- Convince everyone that injecting aersols into the atmosphere is the only alternative to catastrophic warming (view in contrast to convincing people of the efficacy of vaccines etc.)

Both of these are incredibly challenging undertakings, even without trying to address the issue of continually acidifying oceans.

And yet, sadly I feel like this is the only most realistic option out of them all.

Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by imtringued on Saturday August 15, 2020 @11:25AM (#24169526)
Goodbye blue sky!
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by dlivingston on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:15PM (#24165595)
I am a huge proponent of carbon sequestration. Colleagues of mine at Los Alamos National Laboratory are doing interesting R&D on this front.
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by drran on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:09PM (#24165565)
Colonize a cool planet and warm up it instead. :-/
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by baron816 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:25PM (#24165647)
No matter how awful Earth gets from global warming, it’s still going to be many orders of magnitude better than Mars over the next 2 centuries.
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by dylan604 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:43PM (#24165719)
Let's leave the only planet to have an atmosphere that we can survive in for a planet that is no longer holding onto any atmosphere at all. Sounds like a winner to me
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by supercanuck on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:57PM (#24165496)
Reduce carbon emissions
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by WaxProlix on Friday August 14, 2020 @10:58PM (#24165505)
Buy land on hillside terraces, I suppose.
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by markvdb on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:53PM (#24165772)
Bought 2ha of fertile land in a remote area forecast to be positively affected by climate change. Rebuilding the holiday home there. Nice to have now. Dirt cheap insurance against so many things going south elsewhere later.

Quite a few things need to line up for this to make sense, but for us, they do.

Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by WaxProlix on Saturday August 15, 2020 @02:17AM (#24166463)
Same, but there's so many bugs out there.
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by option on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:12PM (#24165578)
carbon taxes
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by devmunchies on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:18PM (#24165613)
If we’re all gonna die, might as well let COVID-19 do it’s job and stop social distancing and mask wearing.
Re:Greenland ice has shrunk beyond return, study finds by dylan604 on Friday August 14, 2020 @11:45PM (#24165733)
SciFi theories say diseases like COVID-19 are only supposed to thin out the herd, not eradicate it. It's like an evolutionary test or something. I'm still waiting for the Monolith to show up to start zapping the members of the species that can't evolve to the next step.