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Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by ocdtrekkie on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:07AM (#24153240)
Samsung can generally fight for special concessions because they're A. One of the largest OEMs and B. Actually have the technical capability, monetary resource, and customer loyalty necessary to fork or replace Android.

Everyone else has really no choice, and Google gives them the my way or the highway approach.

Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by em-bee on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:15AM (#24153293)
even samsung is limited. they have their alternative OS, but they are not allowed to support android apps on that OS because that would violate their android license which they need on other devices.

other alternative systems have more freedom than samsung because they are not bound by a license from google.

Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by nl on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:10AM (#24153833)
Samsung has the Galaxy Appstore on their Android devices.

> they have their alternative OS

This is Tizen, and it doesn't support Android apps at all. It's a completely different operating system, so not entirely clear why Sumsung would want Android apps on it.

Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by distances on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:51AM (#24154169)
> This is Tizen, and it doesn't support Android apps at all. It's a completely different operating system, so not entirely clear why Sumsung would want Android apps on it.

It would be impossible to launch a new platform without compatibility for existing apps. There's no way to gain enough developer mindshare to become a serious alternative otherwise.

Jolla had Android app compatibility from the launch in addition to the platform native apps, as they knew that's the only option really.

Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by nl on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:56AM (#24154649)
This is all true, but nevertheless this is what Samsung has done.

If you look at the linage of it (Intel Meego) and the time frame they started it (2011) the strategy of HTML5 support for apps kind of made sense.

Allegedly they are adding .NET support to it?

It is still around and actively developed. I believe it's had some success on watches.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen

Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by em-bee on Friday August 14, 2020 @03:09AM (#24154751)
well, samsung had no choice really.

on watches and appliances or tvs the android apps don't matter much so android support is less critical there.

Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by em-bee on Friday August 14, 2020 @02:00AM (#24154219)
and jolla could do that because they didn't have an android license from google to begin with. tizen coudn't.
Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by em-bee on Friday August 14, 2020 @01:56AM (#24154199)
ok, i was not aware of the samsung galaxy app store. thank you. i do believe that this is on of their early deals however, and google would not make such a deal again.

tizen needs to support android because the tizen app market doesn't offer everything needed. some important apps are only on android. (namely chat apps for example. without those a phones usefulness is very limited) i had a tizen phone years ago. technically it was very nice, but not even having access to f-droid was a problem.

maybe samsung doesn't care, but as a consumer i do care.

technically it was possible to pack android apps into a wrapper to make them run on tizen. but it had to be done separately. a third-party service could do that, leaving samsung free from violating their android license.

Re:Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher dea... by nitrogen on Friday August 14, 2020 @12:20AM (#24153332)
Samsung does have an app store though.