Removing fingerprint unlock and add face unlock and then months later facemasks are manditory, and you can't unlock your phone without pin.

Face unlock and masks are the bane of my existence right now. I'm honestly strongly considering removing the lock screen alltogether.

As an Apple Face ID user, I'm quite happy with how they improved the responsiveness of showing the keypad in iOS 13.5, presumably if half a face is detected [1].

Face ID continues trying to find a face for a few seconds if the sensor is pointed elsewhere.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/20/21265019/apple-ios-13-5-o...

This was my main regret of getting a pixel 4 and it still bothers me to this day. I was definitely more satisfied with my 3 :(

I still have my Pixel 2 and love it. Finger print reader is in the perfect location and I don't want to change XD.

Does the fingerprint scanner work when you are wearing disposable gloves ?

Do people wear disposable gloves? A facemask I can understand, but I'm not sure of the value of disposable gloves vs good hand hygiene.

People seem to forget that their skin is a glove when it comes to viruses.

My point is instead of wearing gloves you can just avoid touching your face until you wash your hands or use hand sanitizer, which you can't do wearing gloves.

Every time I've removed my skin, it has been most unpleasant.

I've also been wearing gloves out places just so that my hands don't get too dry from using so much hand sanitizer/washing. Washing or sanitizing the gloves doesn't dry out my skin which is nice.

...so don't touch your face with it.

gloves have a pretty strong effect in preventing you from touching your face, when you remove the face mask because you get into a car.

Your skin does not.

You should probably be hand sanitizing when you're getting in the car - if you keep the gloves on you're just smearing whatever you picked up at the store all over your car doors, keys, and steering wheel, as well as the strings of your mask. Assuming you use the car gloved in the next day or so, it's now on your hands as well.

People around here do but my research indicates it's no better than just regularly washing your hands and using hand sanitizer (and never touching your face, of course).

I wear them when at the grocery store, primarily. There's a lot of high touch there. It's probably overkill, but it makes me feel more comfortable about it.

So, you wear gloves at the grocery store, then you touch your phone with them? Wearing gloves isn't going to help unless you also wash everything you touched with gloves.

If you're concerned about touching things when out wash your hands when you get home (and anything else you've touched while out).

I just don't touch my phone in the store and hand sanitize before I touch my wallet or car keys (anything I'm taking home with me) and then again after I put the cart away. At each of those contact points I'd need to sanitize my gloves as well so it doesn't seem to provide extra protection.

you aren't wearing a mask 24/7. You'll still be able to use the face unlock feature when at home

Face unlock is ... inconsitant, and support in apps is sparse. I have a 4XL (personal) and 2XL (work), and I never run into issues with the 2XL, it reads the fingerprint as I take out of my pocket, and it is open as I look at it.

4XL - take it out, and 80% of the time it works, the other 20% I spend time moving it up and down, and just entering the pin.

I prefer fingerprint too, but just want to point out it's also imperfect. If your hands are at all damp, or sweaty, or cold, the success rate drops to well below 50% (at least for me). It often takes 3-4 tries to unlock if not under perfect conditions, so it's not uncommon that I have to give up and enter the PIN even with my fingerprint-capable Pixel 3.

You must never get condensation on your finger or phone. That scanner is so ineffective with just a little moisture.

That said, I still like it better than face.

Bitwarden supports faceunlock -> all apps with pin support face unlock. Solved.

yeah, but not my banking app, or apps like UniFi's Network manager that waits for the fingerprint read intent before trying the secure store.

It is a lot more than just "password manager == sorted"

Fingerprint was far better imo

I have a OnePlus 5 and use both depending on the situation, very useful.

Or when wearing a helmet

Actually, some people are recomended to wear at home.

An extreme minority. Unlocking your phone is very low on the list of issues if you are one of those people.

It was also just horribly expensive, and that's the main reason I did not upgrade yet. I'm not a big fan of Google trying to copy Apple on e.g. the notch at the top of the screen; copying the Apple pricing strategy of expensive==luxury is even worse.

Pixel A line is the new Nexus, that's where the party is at. They really shine for a reasonable price.

I agree. It seems like a fairly clear marketing play that they don't think people will treat them as premium if they don't price at the top of the scale.

However I wouldn't be surprised if it worked. It is not uncommon it hear of stories where raising the price lead to more sales and people regarding the product as of a higher quality.

The main thing is I buy Google because I don't like Apple (for a number of reasons, starting from the OS itself). The last thing I want is them trying to be more Apple-like. People who like Apple will buy Apple. They need to design for everyone else.