Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by Wildgoose on Sunday July 26, 2020 @05:55PM
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As a Go player, my favourite anecdote about Olivia de Havilland is that her father became so addicted to the game in Japan that his wife divorced him. He married a Japanese woman and went on to write the first Go book written in English.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by aazaa on Sunday July 26, 2020 @04:38PM
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Wikipedia maintains a list of films now in the public domain. de Havilland's films are of the right age to be on the list, but don't appear to be. Most of the films on the list got there from failure to renew the copyright, a requirement which has since disappeared.
> Prior to 1988, all motion picture films published after 1909 with a copyright notice where the 28th year of copyright would occur before 1988, had to be registered and before the 28th year, the registration had to be renewed, or the copyright for the film would expire and it would enter the public domain. This would apply to all films registered for copyright prior to 1960. Copyright renewals became optional in 1988.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by asveikau on Sunday July 26, 2020 @04:15PM
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Wow. Imagine for a moment being a famous person of a certain age and making that list. As if strangers on the internet are betting on, almost plotting your demise.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by turndown on Sunday July 26, 2020 @04:52PM
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I think the list is interesting in a cultural sense, but I agree that the way it works is disturbing to say the least. Consider the discussion post for Phillip Mountbatten[0] for the kind of enlightened discussion the site hosts...
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Sunday July 26, 2020 @05:55PM
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I don't think it bothers Philip. Members of his family have had worse than some harmless online haters. Some were killed by bombs [1], including 14 y.o. children.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by gorgoiler on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:47AM
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How strange to use the name Philip Mountbatten. It was surprisingly jarring to see that, when this person is almost always referred to as The Duke of Edinburgh.
Then I read your link and it made more sense. Name mangling is an amazingly powerful part of human culture, when exerting negative social pressure.
Separately, I am disappointed that the 1000 people more annoying than Mick Hucknall link, on the forum, is a 404.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by markdown on Monday July 27, 2020 @02:21AM
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It's interesting to compare how these two are described:
Prince Philip - Casual racist
Henry Kissinger - Diplomat
Philip said some racist things, and Henry is only alive because the US doesn't let its citizens stand trial for war crimes. Henry going to hell this year would be a bright spot in an otherwise shitty year.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by asveikau on Sunday July 26, 2020 @07:04PM
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One strange thing about that forum is they keep the same threads year after year. So there is, for example, 11 pages of people rooting for Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death since 2009.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by echelon on Monday July 27, 2020 @03:56AM
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What a macabre and insensitive website. They're cheering for these deaths as they happen. This perspective is primitive and aberrant.
Death is a disease, and it's unfortunate we have to face it due to our technological infancy. We don't celebrate the affliction of Parkinson's; we shouldn't celebrate losing the aged to their disease.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by Shacklz on Monday July 27, 2020 @04:23AM
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While I don't really disagree with your first part (the website really seems to be a bit in poor taste), categorizing death as a disease seems a rather strange thought. I really do hope we never have to discuss the ethical and moral (let alone societal) implications of people being able to live forever; life's finiteness might not be something we should celebrate, but it does have its benefits.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by Andrew_nenakhov on Monday July 27, 2020 @11:35AM
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Death is the price our species pay for evolution. It also brings change, which sometimes allows the situation to improve. If humans didn't die, dictators like Stalin or Mao would rule indefinitely long. Hell, humanity could still be enslaved to some powerful Pharaoh, who would see little incentive to change things, being immortal living god, and his power would not erode on an inevitable succession.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by 082349872349872 on Monday July 27, 2020 @02:54AM
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It also mentions Every Frenchman Has One, which was a "best-seller". What are recent US best-sellers explicating other cultures? Educated? The City of Falling Angels?
(I'm not sure either of those portray the other in a sympathetic light. Considering that de Havilland immigrated to france, I'd bet hers did.)
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by jackcosgrove on Sunday July 26, 2020 @09:56PM
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The Adventures of Robin Hood is incredibly entertaining to this day. Claude Rains is an excellent villain, and the action is fast-paced. RIP Golden Age of Hollywood, RIP Ms. de Havilland.
Re:Olivia de Havilland, sophisticated star of Hollywood's go...
by kanobo on Monday July 27, 2020 @12:14AM
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It'll be a nice tradition if everybody who turns 100 publish a short letter for the next generation documenting lessons they've learned and advice they would give. RIP Havilland.
> Lilian and Walter met in Japan in 1913 and married the following year; the marriage was not a happy one due in part to Walter's infidelities.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_de_Havilland#Early_life.
And apparently in his wife's own words
> spoke like God, but behaved like the Devil
from https://books.google.com/books?id=nmjetV92THsC&pg=PP1#v=onep...
It doesn't seem like Go was the reason for the divorce.
> Prior to 1988, all motion picture films published after 1909 with a copyright notice where the 28th year of copyright would occur before 1988, had to be registered and before the 28th year, the registration had to be renewed, or the copyright for the film would expire and it would enter the public domain. This would apply to all films registered for copyright prior to 1960. Copyright renewals became optional in 1988.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_in_the_public_do...
[1]: https://deathlist.net/
0: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/8107-1-prince-philip-duke...
[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Mountbatten,_1st_Earl_...
Then I read your link and it made more sense. Name mangling is an amazingly powerful part of human culture, when exerting negative social pressure.
Separately, I am disappointed that the 1000 people more annoying than Mick Hucknall link, on the forum, is a 404.
Prince Philip - Casual racist
Henry Kissinger - Diplomat
Philip said some racist things, and Henry is only alive because the US doesn't let its citizens stand trial for war crimes. Henry going to hell this year would be a bright spot in an otherwise shitty year.
Discussions are indeed not very kind.
Death is a disease, and it's unfortunate we have to face it due to our technological infancy. We don't celebrate the affliction of Parkinson's; we shouldn't celebrate losing the aged to their disease.
Well, he does look good for his age.
The article mentions in passing Hattie McDaniel, one of her co-stars in Gone With the Wind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hattie_McDaniel
(I'm not sure either of those portray the other in a sympathetic light. Considering that de Havilland immigrated to france, I'd bet hers did.)
Leap of Faith?
https://www.csmonitor.com/1980/0917/091702.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-olivia-de-havilland-bucked...
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/last-slav...