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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by contrarianmop on Friday July 24, 2020 @09:57AM (#23939521)
In the United States, much like in similar authoritarian countries, the police appears to be able to arrest journalists without probable cause. Happened live where journalists reporting live have been arrested and / or beaten. A sad state of affairs.
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by stronglikedan on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:03AM (#23939617)
> the police appears to be able to arrest journalists without probable cause. Happened live

I haven't seen any stories/vids where they arrested journalists without probable cause in the US recently. Would you happen to have any links to share?

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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by stronglikedan on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:21AM (#23939836)
Thanks. I know the CNN crew were definitely arrested for cause, but I hadn't heard about the Australian crew. Although, I'll have to do more research on that one, because the link doesn't really give much context as to why they were confronted in the first place.
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by jessaustin on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:28AM (#23939935)
What was the cause? They were taking pictures too disruptively?

I can't believe I've been forced to defend CNN...

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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by bilbo0s on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:58AM (#23940262)
I can't believe I've been forced to defend CNN.

I can't believe I'm agreeing with your defense of CNN. We really are living in Bizarro World right now. Some people in the US have gone way too far down the authoritarian path.

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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by kyleee on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:53AM (#23940197)
They were told to move out of that specific area
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by jessaustin on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:06AM (#23940354)
So what? Unlawful orders are unlawful. The reporter and camera operator were not obstructing anything. They were in a position to observe, which is what the public wants them to do. Police will disagree, but police have lied so much that no one believes them anymore.
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by kyleee on Wednesday July 29, 2020 @03:07PM (#23990446)
Why is it assumed the order is unlawful?
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by jessaustin on Saturday August 01, 2020 @07:23PM (#24024805)
I didn't assume anything. I told you why it was unlawful, in the comment directly above.
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by elipsey on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:55AM (#23940234)
They are also macing and beating journos solely for lawfully filming cops. Makes it kind of hard to do the job even they don't arrest you. See topic article.

While you're at it: https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=G_caX_qVB_HI0PEPv...

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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by pensatoio on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:24AM (#23939895)
Yeah, but these aren’t police, they’re feds who are deployed within the scope of codified law. This reads like judicial activism, nothing more.
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by jungturk on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:37AM (#23940026)
The judge is noting that there are competing concerns at play here (as is often the case) and clarifying for participants the priority of those concerns.

Specifically, the statutes that authorize these policing actions are inferior to the constitutional guarantees in this case given the situation on the ground.

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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by SauciestGNU on Friday July 24, 2020 @11:23AM (#23940571)
I think you've got it wrong. The rights as defined in the Bill of Rights apply more strictly to the federal government than they do to the states. In fact, it took the Fourteenth Amendment and over a hundred years of judicial interpretation to "incorporate" a subset of the Bill of Rights to apply to state governments.
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Re:Order temporarily blocks Feds from targeting press, legal... by xtian on Friday July 24, 2020 @10:27AM (#23939918)
Their only identification is a little patch which reads “POLICE”. You’re saying that’s fraudulent?
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