The press in the U.K. is attacking UN agencies daily - it would not surprise me in the slightest if the U.K. decided the SC was too constraining, their veto not big enough.
Same goes for NATO - the ERG want out, and feel the contributions are an unfair burden. They are right now opaquely “streamlining” the military. How that helps meet the NATO commitment, not clear.
Everyone said {the many things that have come to pass over the past few years} would never happen, that it would be an insane choice.
At this point, the insane choice is the inevitable choice, so I’d put money (actually, I have, I am shorting sterling, hard, as a hedge) on them leaving both the UN and NATO.
The EU has a serious democratic deficit and this will never be resolved.
Somewhat true, but so does the UK with its unelected upper house! Having Ian Botham made a permanent legislator because of his "loyalty" to the Party is not really the stuff of a democratic country.
The EU does have flaws, but that's not the basis on which Brexit was fought.
Two wrongs don't make one right.
>The EU does have flaws, but that's not the basis on which Brexit was fought.
This is the whole point of my initial comment. You can't just dismiss all criticism of the EU as racist and xenophobic. That just causes more divisiveness and bad will.
the (elected) EU parliament cannot initiate legislation, only the (unelected) commission can
EU: the elected parliament is a rubber stamp on the unelected commission's agenda
UK: the unelected house is a rubber stamp on the elected house's agenda
It's a bit like saying that the UK in undemocratic because the civil service drafts the laws.
Got a citation for that? My impression is euroskeptics love America and NATO.
At this point I am beginning to wonder what is behind the pattern.
Are we witnessing the failure of governments acting in the best national interests because they have finally become fully subverted from within by selfish forces? A common pattern to the madness in the US and the madness in the UK is that an inner circle stand to get very rich from all the goings-on.
When France and UK became part initial members the SC. They were still colonial powers controlling a lot of the world, and won the war, they are no longer have that kind of strength or influence.
If a new council were created in the somewhat near future it would be because power dynamics have shifted far enough that the current council is no longer useful, from the current members UK and France are most likely to ones for that shift and not enjoy similar rights. New powers at the table could be EU as a whole, India, Brazil perhaps Japan and Germany etc.
again, based on what?
half of your posts here are speculation based on no substance whatsoever
what did the UK ever do to you?