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Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by rgblambda on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @04:11AM (#23905173)
Not sure if you're joking but the UNSC is associated with power and prestige. The UK would need to be dragged out of that. Same goes for NATO.
Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by madaxe_again on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @04:24AM (#23905226)
And the U.K. had unprecedented power and control within Europe, and were willing to walk away.

The press in the U.K. is attacking UN agencies daily - it would not surprise me in the slightest if the U.K. decided the SC was too constraining, their veto not big enough.

Same goes for NATO - the ERG want out, and feel the contributions are an unfair burden. They are right now opaquely “streamlining” the military. How that helps meet the NATO commitment, not clear.

Everyone said {the many things that have come to pass over the past few years} would never happen, that it would be an insane choice.

At this point, the insane choice is the inevitable choice, so I’d put money (actually, I have, I am shorting sterling, hard, as a hedge) on them leaving both the UN and NATO.

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by kentrado on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @04:55AM (#23905351)
Maybe it has something to do with the EU? What I see missing in a lot of this discussions is always a honest critique of the flaws of the EU that may have caused Brexit.

The EU has a serious democratic deficit and this will never be resolved.

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by pjc50 on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @05:00AM (#23905379)
> The EU has a serious democratic deficit and this will never be resolved.

Somewhat true, but so does the UK with its unelected upper house! Having Ian Botham made a permanent legislator because of his "loyalty" to the Party is not really the stuff of a democratic country.

The EU does have flaws, but that's not the basis on which Brexit was fought.

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by kentrado on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @05:50AM (#23905602)
That's a tu quoque fallacy. Just because the UK has an unelected upper house doesn't mean that this justifies the EU having a democratic deficit.

Two wrongs don't make one right.

>The EU does have flaws, but that's not the basis on which Brexit was fought.

This is the whole point of my initial comment. You can't just dismiss all criticism of the EU as racist and xenophobic. That just causes more divisiveness and bad will.

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by blibble on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @05:21AM (#23905474)
as I'm sure you well know, the Lords is completely subordinate to the Commons (the elected house); it essentially acts as a scrutinising committee

the (elected) EU parliament cannot initiate legislation, only the (unelected) commission can

EU: the elected parliament is a rubber stamp on the unelected commission's agenda

UK: the unelected house is a rubber stamp on the elected house's agenda

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by lhopki01 on Wednesday July 22, 2020 @10:19AM (#23917247)
Considering the head of the Commission and all the Commissioners are chosen by the governments of the EU nations and voted on by the Parliament this is a bit disingenuous.

It's a bit like saying that the UK in undemocratic because the civil service drafts the laws.

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by michaelt on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @06:12AM (#23905686)
> Same goes for NATO - the ERG want out, and feel the contributions are an unfair burden.

Got a citation for that? My impression is euroskeptics love America and NATO.

Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by arethuza on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @04:56AM (#23905362)
The bulk of the Royal Navy (i.e. one carrier and escorts) is apparently going to be based in the "Far East" - I wonder where that idea came from?
Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by youngtaff on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @05:04AM (#23905397)
Yeh, I don't get that either
Re:UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court by dTal on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @04:51AM (#23905333)
>At this point, the insane choice is the inevitable choice

At this point I am beginning to wonder what is behind the pattern.

Are we witnessing the failure of governments acting in the best national interests because they have finally become fully subverted from within by selfish forces? A common pattern to the madness in the US and the madness in the UK is that an inner circle stand to get very rich from all the goings-on.