Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at risk

Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by jorblumesea on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:12PM (#23874955)

While it's easy to blame Trump (and he deserves a heaping pile of blame), the corruption and destruction of a functional US government has long been the goal of those on the right. Since the 80s there has been a concerted movement to defund and destroy the effective ability of our government for ideological and personal reasons.

Then, when the water treatment plants break down or the education system is a mess they can privatize it and reap the profits. Or they can establish charter schools that teach creationism, segregate classrooms again, or reduce education to minorities.

This is just one chess move in a long game that has been playing out since the 50s. Within this context, the moves here are not surprising, especially with Betsy DeVos in charge.

Read her bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_DeVos#School_vouchers

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by s5300 on Friday July 17, 2020 @04:39PM (#23875259)

Dear HN users:

I plea that you refrain down voting any comment that advises you to take a look at DeVos's Wikipedia page. I HIGHLY advise reading Betsy DeVos's Wikipedia page.

With no offense intended (truly) I've got the idea that quite a portion of HN users probably don't know just how much of an absolute shitshow the head of U.S. Education is. DeVos is certifiably insane

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by morelisp on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:08PM (#23875578)

I will third this. Please, just look. You'll need to go through decades of multi-level marketing scams, private military contracting, torturous approach to treating autism and other behavioral therapies, and multi-generational Charismatic Christian hate groups before you can even dig into her atrocious educational policies.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by DuskStar on Saturday July 18, 2020 @11:04AM (#23881848)

> multi-level marketing scams

As far as I can tell, not mentioned on that page.

> private military contracting

Only mention is this sentence: "Betsy DeVos's brother, Erik Prince, a former U.S. Navy SEAL officer, is the founder of Blackwater USA, a private military services contractor."

> torturous approach to treating autism and other behavorial therapies

"Betsy and her husband Dick are chief investors in and board members of Neurocore, a group of brain performance centers offering biofeedback therapy for disorders such as depression, attention deficit disorder, autism, and anxiety. The therapy consists of showing movies to patients and interrupting them when they become distracted, in an effort to retrain their brains." Reading that, and the following paragraph, it seems like the efficacy of the treatment is dubious... But torture?

> multi-generational Charismatic Christian hate groups

The wikipedia page mentions a number of christian groups associated with the DeVos family. As far as I can tell, these all seem like bog-standard conservative causes. But, judging by the hyperbole in the rest of your comment, those probably do qualify as hate groups to you.

Overall, not impressed.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by mynameisvlad on Friday July 17, 2020 @05:59PM (#23876426)

This is a horribly disingenuous statement that shows you're not approaching in good faith.

Someone not agreeing with the original comment doesn't mean they suddenly agree with everything DeVos does, and just because someone linked to DeVos's Wikipedia article doesn't mean people shouldn't be critical of the rest of the comment (which is what the child you're replying to suggests).

Also, don't comment on voting. It's against the rules: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by sv123 on Friday July 17, 2020 @06:38PM (#23876811)

It's the GOP motto: Government doesn't work, here let me show you.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by DuskStar on Saturday July 18, 2020 @11:09AM (#23881879)

As opposed to the DNC motto of "Government works, you're just not giving us enough money".

Both parties are dysfunctional.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by jorblumesea on Saturday July 18, 2020 @12:55PM (#23882747)

The government would function more efficiently if the GOP wasn't so dead set on blocking any form of reform or efficiency. It's not a coincidence that once any Dem gets into office the GOP becomes the party of No.

Try to reform healthcare? Nope. Try to cut military spending? No. Establish oversight over federal slush funds? Nope.

Having the government burn tons of money is absolutely playing into the hands of those arguing to weaken government for personal profit. The GOP are completely fine burning cash because they can just blame the Dems and use that as an argument to privatize core government functions.

So once again, much of it comes back to GOP obstructionism.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by panzagl on Friday July 17, 2020 @07:28PM (#23877245)

So the thing is, since WWII we've switched pretty evenly between the 'left' party and the 'right' party at the national level. All administrations/Congresses have been quick to sell us out to foreign and corporate interests, whether it's Bush going to war for oil or Obama forcing everyone to buy health insurance.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by thirdsun on Tuesday July 21, 2020 @06:45AM (#23905806)

Do you really think that sane health care, a problem the rest of the world has figured out long ago, is nothing more than a scheme to serve corporate interests? Or on the same level as intentionally going to war based on misleading, if not downright incorrect, justifications. I can't believe what I'm reading here.

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Re:Teachers are ready to quit rather than put their lives at... by mistermann on Saturday July 18, 2020 @02:26AM (#23879488)

I'd describe it as roughly, both parties have been Neoliberals since the 80's or so (the Political Overton Window changed), but then within that there's the part that people only see: left vs right, but they're far less different than they seem.

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