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Re:The TikTok War by sharadov on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @12:16PM (#23833749)
My naive question is how is Tiktok bad and all other American social media platforms - FB/Insta/Snap good?
Re:The TikTok War by orangse on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @12:54PM (#23834425)
My theoretical answer would be that we can regulate American companies more effectively and have them be held accountable, like when Zuckerberg had to go before Congress. I doubt you'd be able to get the CEO of a large Chinese company to do that.

In reality we don't regulate them nearly as much as we can, so the end result is that FB and Tiktok both invade your privacy.

Re:The TikTok War by esperent on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @10:26PM (#23840530)
As a non-American looking on, it seems to me like the US government has failed spectacularly at any kind of regulation, and to the contrary is often actively trying to undermine privacy laws. Zuckerberg in front of congress achieved exactly zero, except provide footage for loads of memes of Zuckerberg as a lizard.

I prefer the idea of a US based social media company to a Chinese one. But only slightly. I would much rather the company be based somewhere with genuine intent to create consumer safety and privacy focused laws.

Re:The TikTok War by Dahoon on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @05:46PM (#23838364)
But getting him in front of Congress didn't nothing at all. Also then world is bigger than the US and PRC.
Re:The TikTok War by aledalgrande on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:20PM (#23834824)
> TikTok and Douyin's servers are each based in the market where the respective app is available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TikTok

Re:The TikTok War by andreilys on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:21PM (#23834836)
Algorithm and moderation policies are opaque. They can be used to subvert a geopolitical rival and spread discord.

It’s pretty trivial to do that, and nobody would be the wiser.

Re:The TikTok War by cwkoss on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:15PM (#23835598)
Agree, but doesn't that also apply to Twitter and Facebook?
Re:The TikTok War by andreilys on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:25PM (#23836544)
Incentives for Twitter/FB are to keep advertisers happy.

Incentive for TikTok is to keep the CCP happy.

Given the geopolitical aims and ambitions of the latter, you can see why they aren't comparable.

Re:The TikTok War by gpanders on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:27PM (#23834915)
This question is explored in-depth in the article.
Re:The TikTok War by tguedes on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @12:38PM (#23834158)
Did you read the article?
Re:The TikTok War by chvid on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @12:35PM (#23834109)
It is bad because it is Chinese.
Re:The TikTok War by tw04 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:07PM (#23835459)
I've never heard of facebook or snapchat or any of their major stakeholders being involved in mass (or any) industrial espionage.

The same can't be said of the Chinese Government. That seems like a pretty distinct reason to be more OK with FB/Insta/Snap than TikTok.

Re:The TikTok War by moreorless on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:18PM (#23835628)
TikTok = Chinese government? That is quite a leap there.
Re:The TikTok War by kbenson on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:26PM (#23836558)
From the article:

All Chinese Internet companies are compelled by the country’s National Intelligence Law to turn over any and all data that the government demands, and that power is not limited by China’s borders. Moreover, this requisition of data is not subject to warrants or courts, as is the case with U.S. government requests for data from Facebook or any other entity;

Their privacy policy notes data may be shared as well:

while TikTok claims that it is independent from ByteDance and stores data in the U.S. and Singapore, its privacy policy is clear:

"We may share your information with a parent, subsidiary, or other affiliate of our corporate group."

Re:The TikTok War by tw04 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @02:47PM (#23836020)
No, it really isn't even a little bit of a leap. Can't tell if you're trolling or severely misinformed.

>Following the shutdown, ByteDance announced that it would give preference to Chinese Communist Party members in its hiring and increase its censors from 6,000 to 10,000 employees.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ByteDance

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Re:The TikTok War by tw04 on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @03:04PM (#23836253)
Care to elaborate? Niantic was spun out of Google. American company with no government funding either from the US or any foreign countries that I see.