ASPI is literally a US State Department-funded front group to publish anti-China propaganda.

The report it put out contains very little evidence of anything not widely reported elsewhere.

This second hand account from the Sunday Guardian (barely a newspaper, owned and run by a Hindu Nationalist politician) contains distortions/misunderstandings of an already threadbare report.

I don’t know why this is on HN. Its literally just propaganda. Share something from reputable sources.

Do you have any link to back up the claim "ASPI is literally a US State Department-funded front group to publish anti-China propaganda"?

ASPI is an Australia think tank, founded by Australian government and partially funded by Australia's Department of Defense, according to their website [0]. Clearly they're biased but not necessarily anti-China. Australia was pretty cozy with China until very recently.

[0] - https://www.aspi.org.au/

That's what it looked like to me as well, but I didn't spend long enough researching ASPI to feel comfortable making the claim.

Thank you for doing more where I didn't have time.

I just happened to stumble across it and thought it was worthwhile information to have. I'm sorry if this is offensive.

Edit: Slightly better link [1]. Still from ASPI, here's a link to their home page [2].

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/03/05/china-move...

[2] https://www.aspi.org.au/

> little evidence of anything not widely reported elsewhere

Are you trying to say the claims are true, since they were independently reported? Or that they mostly lack evidence? Without telling us which claims are confirmed by other sources, which are unsupported, and which are distortions, we can only speculate.

I'm saying that the US State Department-funded ASPI report and a rehashed column from a Hindu nationalist newspaper that barely qualifies as journalism are poor sources on this subject: neither provide any credible information on this subject.

When someone begins a sentence with everybody knows, I often found that not everyone knows.

Are you saying all of China's industrial output is done with slaves?

Because it's funny the Wests answer to this is move to parts of the world that pays even less

Yes, western or more correctly, international companies are keen to take advantage of slave labor even in 2020, this isn't even slightly controversial.

Once upon a time there was colonialism, now it is neo-colonialism. However, think from the perspective of the countries, even if the leaders are influenced by short term thinking and Chinese bribes, they will undoubtedly feel that having Chinese money in is better than nothing.

The Iran-China talks for 400 bn $ investment is the latest example.

Also people feel that slavery or cheap labor will disappear if people stop buying, boycott brands etc. The unfortunate reality is that people will do what they can to survive. Although in the case of China, they use it more as a method for cultural and economic subjugation. I am not sure how bad the conditions are, but i can definitely wager they will not be as bad as many other poorer countries. So from the perspective of an average Uighur person who wants employment and peace in life, it might even be a step up.