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Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by screye on Monday July 13, 2020 @11:12AM (#23821573)
> Mukhesh Ambani who's got a good connect with the current ruling Government

To be fair, Mukesh has got good connections everywhere. He is India's most powerful person.

Amitabh and the Shahrukh (some of the world's richest actors, both half billionaires) both volunteered as servers at his daughters wedding as a show of appreciation. If a man can command the most powerful of his country to such level of willful subservience, then every Govt. will try to curry favor with him.

I will add, that while his intentions might be entirely selfish, the pace at which Jio was able to bring affordable 4G to the whole country is incredibly empowering for rural / small town India.

That being said, adding money to the pool of what is quickly becoming a monopoly is not a "fund to digitize America" as Pichai put it.

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by mekoka on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:53PM (#23822863)
> volunteered as servers at his daughters wedding as a show of appreciation.

> can command the most powerful of his country to such level of willful subservience

To me there's a disconnect between the two phrases. I don't think they were volunteering to humiliate themselves, but rather to show how close they were. Let's say hypothetically that Bill Gates had become really good pal with Jeff Bezos and that you went to an event that one of the two had organized and you saw the other serving the punch, would you say that he's being subservient?

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by derefr on Monday July 13, 2020 @11:30AM (#23821799)
> volunteered as servers at his daughters wedding ... subservience

I don't know about you, but when I hear "working as a server at a wedding attended by many powerful people", I don't think "subservience", I think "unique opportunity to make connections, and to potentially snoop insider information."

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by tuesday20 on Monday July 13, 2020 @04:17PM (#23825139)
I am not sure you comprehend the fame and reach of the actors mentioned. They don’t need connections, they are super famous in their own right.

Also note, Amitabh is in his late seventies. I doubt he is interested in connections at his age.

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by viklove on Monday July 13, 2020 @11:39AM (#23821907)
You must not know of Amitabh and the Shahrukh -- they're not some smalltime actors that need to get a leg up. This would be like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt offering to be servers at Jeff Bezos' daughters wedding. It's absurdly subservient.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by mycodebreaks on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:06PM (#23822280)
Do not ignore cultural differences. If you see such an activity as a job, then you would arrive at a conclusion like yours.

In India, it's common for hosts to serve food as a sign of respect to their guests. Close friends and family of hosts also join. This only showed the closeness of the relationships among Mukesh and other stars. Seeing it as a subservient act isn't accurate, no big star would sign up if it were so.

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by xmprt on Monday July 13, 2020 @02:19PM (#23823842)
To give another example, often times, the servers for these weddings aren't people you pay but rather your close friends and family.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by TLightful on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:43PM (#23822748)
This is correct. I'm not Indian but my wife is and I've observed it many times as an insider "outsider".
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by vinay_ys on Monday July 13, 2020 @01:13PM (#23823075)
Subservient isn't the right word I think. A lot of rich and famous attended the Ambani wedding events – Clinton, Huffington etc and a lot of celebrities from world over.

Beyonce did a show too. So did a lot of Bollywood celebrities. These celebrities do paid gigs at these ultra rich wedding parties.

https://www.wmagazine.com/story/isha-ambani-wedding-india-hi...

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by viklove on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @11:10AM (#23832824)
Attending an event as a guest is very, very different than attending an event as a server...
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by newen on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:22PM (#23834847)
Serving in many Indian weddings can be done by friends and family. It's like showing that you're very close to the family.

Not too long ago, it used to be that family and friends would get together to cook for the wedding.

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by ponker on Monday July 13, 2020 @11:57PM (#23828377)
Not really, people whose status is beyond question can do stuff like this just because they feel like it. I attended a high school play at a fancy private school in Texas and to my surprise the parking lot attendant was Michael Dell, who had a kid in the school. Nobody said “yuk yuk Dell is such a loser he worked the parking lot.”
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by bg24 on Monday July 13, 2020 @02:04PM (#23823658)
Well said.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by xxpor on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:19PM (#23822458)
Random language usage question: in India, if someone is referred to as a billionaire, would that be in terms of rupees or dollars? (1 billion INR is ~13.3 million USD)

Or does it essentially never come up because a typical Indian would use lakh/crore instead? Is there's something like a "lakh croreaire"?

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by vghaisas on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:50PM (#23822832)
Indians use "crorepati" for someone with a crore rupees. Interestingly, the Indian equivalent of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" is "Kaun Banega Crorepati" (who will become a crorepati).

As for millionaire/billionaire, imo it's hard to tell but on HN I would infer USD. (Amitabh Bachchan's net worth is ~$400M based on a quick search.)

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by psankar on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @01:15PM (#23834735)
> the Indian equivalent of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" is "Kaun Banega Crorepati"

The North Indian equivalent is called so. Atleast, In TN we have our own version of the show, based on the same "Crore" denomination but not thus called.

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by kumarharsh on Wednesday July 15, 2020 @05:28AM (#23842959)
What is this fetish by some people to always label things "North Indian"? It is a national show on a national television where the participants are from all around India (from Ladakh to Tamil Nadu, Gujarat to Arunachal Pradesh).
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by flak48 on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:23PM (#23822503)
> Or does it essentially never come up because a typical Indian would use lakh/crore instead?

Exactly. USD is almost always implied when million/billion is used

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by hcnews on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:49PM (#23822830)
Yeah, for millionaire/billionaire the definition shifts to the western one. Mukesh was/is also top 10 richest globally I believe.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by shripadk on Monday July 13, 2020 @05:07PM (#23825581)
If you see a billion being used it is usually the Western style. So when you say someone is a billionaire it is in USD. If you want an Indian take on it, it would be: Lakhpati and Crorepati.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by paulpan on Monday July 13, 2020 @12:54PM (#23822875)
I'm not familiar with Mukhesh Ambani or his reputation, but sounds like he's India's version of China's Jack Ma? Jack Ma and Alibaba came to the forefront due in part to his connections to the Chinese government.

On the topic itself, it's unclear what Google's intentions are and how they could benefit from such an investment. $10B is not a big sum so is the purpose altruistic or as grease for other purposes?

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by screye on Monday July 13, 2020 @02:00PM (#23823606)
Not really. Mukesh Ambani was born a billionaire. His father was India's biggest power and oil baron.

Afaik, the Ambani dynasty of 2 generations has been India's richest for about 30 years now.

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by ponker on Tuesday July 14, 2020 @12:04AM (#23828412)
More like the Koch brothers. Inherited a vast company with tremendous financial and political resources and made them even vaster and more deeply rooted.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by shadykiller on Monday July 13, 2020 @01:40PM (#23823380)
I wouldn't call Mukhesh Ambani as Jack Ma. He inherited a lot of wealth and more important, a lot of government connections. He can bend rules for e.g. his non-existent Jio University got the tag "Institution of Eminence"

He gets foreign technology and just jumps in any sector with governments blessing. Be it oil and gas, infra projects or even telecom

Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by mav3rick on Monday July 13, 2020 @01:37PM (#23823340)
Unlike Jack, Mukesh's father started with Reliance Polyester then expanded the business. Mukesh took it to even greater heights.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by colinmhayes on Monday July 13, 2020 @01:30PM (#23823269)
Companies aren't altruistic, their only purpose is to provide value to shareholders. That doesn't mean this is a greasing, it could just be google wanting more people connected to the internet so more people use their products.
Re:Google to Invest $10B in India by cat199 on Monday July 13, 2020 @05:27PM (#23825757)
> Companies aren't altruistic, their only purpose is to provide value to shareholders.

Companies do whatever their owners tell them to do. What you are talking about one specific model of what some people think they should do and what purpose they should serve in society. A very popular and possibly even 'default' model, but only one of many.

https://blog.corplaw.ie/bid/317212/Shareholder-Stakeholder-T...

etc

that said, assuming altruism here even if there aren't immediately obvious benefits to the company would probably be a bit naive.