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Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by temp231239 on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:45PM (#23772280)
One think that I would like to see solved by indie search engines is the ability to break the search bubble and see whats usually hidden on 10th page of google search results. This is a serious problem in all big search engines.

One interesting way to solve search bubble problem is to have an option to filter out results from high traffic websites and blogs who invest heavily in CEO and pollute search results.

Having this filter will surely open a completely different world of information that's very hard to search.

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by Flashtoo on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:58PM (#23772467)
> have an option to filter out results from high traffic websites

That's what Million Short does https://millionshort.com/

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by Darkphibre on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:29PM (#23773389)
Good grief, this is astonishing. The other day I tried tracking down the names for various avatar species in VRChat. Surely someone had a list curated... but bing, google, and ddg all let me down with ancient wikis or completely unrelated sites, no matter my quoting or alternate search terms (animals, avatars, creatures, etc.).

Very first hit on millionshort: https://www.vrcarena.com/

Edit: Though, I'm still trying to track down a more comprehensive list. That one's missing Nanachis, which are rather common these days.

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by leereeves on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:55PM (#23774128)
That's also the first hit on DDG for avatar species in VRChat

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=avatar+species+in+VRChat&ia...

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by Darkphibre on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:58PM (#23775168)
I don't know what to say. Yesterday, for me, it was no where on the first few pages.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by elcomet on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:35PM (#23774507)
That's the second link on google for me for "avatar species in VRChat"
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by Darkphibre on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @06:57PM (#23775166)
I don't know what to say. Yesterday, for me, it was no where on the first few pages.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by hombre_fatal on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @08:25PM (#23775765)
fwiw, It's not on google's first few pages for me on that exact same search, so you aren't going crazy.

This thread does show up though. There are so few relevant results that I wouldn't be surprised if this thread alone is giving enough weight to vrcarena.com to already be rolling out to some people, hence the discrepancy in these comments.

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by elcomet on Saturday July 11, 2020 @03:42PM (#23805223)
Wow I didn't think Google went this far to personalize results...
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by fireattack on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @02:16PM (#23772673)
The first thing I searched, it shows

Oops.. sorry about that!Engineers have been notified and are looking into the issue. If you see a captcha, be sure to fill it out and submit to continue your search

Edit: it looks like it doesn't support anything that is not in Latin letters at all.

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by smnscu on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @11:32PM (#23776694)
Okay, this is crazy. This week I spent 5-10 minutes scrambling my brain to find this article [1], it was the first search result for "no more free sodas" (now, to be fair, it's now the first result for me on Google, too).

Thanks for bringing this onto my radar, I've added it to my pile of cool links!

1: https://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-ear...

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by kkaranth on Thursday July 09, 2020 @02:48AM (#23777632)
Thanks, this is super cool! I just used it to discover new music(search "electronics music albums" and removed the top million hits)
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by ornornor on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:08PM (#23773204)
Thanks, worked well for me and I found information I couldn’t find on ddg.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by classics2 on Thursday July 09, 2020 @03:15AM (#23777744)
This needs to be front page.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by onyva on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:10PM (#23773734)
I was quite impressed from what I’ve seen so far. The most frustrating thing about google how unreliable/irrelevant the results are when your query has anything to to with something that can be payed for, you get immediately spammed by low quality commercial bs, while ddg is practically useless for very specific searches I.e an error message in an app etc.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by tenuousemphasis on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @07:02PM (#23775206)
I just want a reliable way to block affiliate link harvesting blogs. They are the fucking bane of the internet.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by onyva on Thursday July 09, 2020 @01:42AM (#23777261)
That would be number one on my list too. I normally skip but it can be endless until you got to a result that looks authentic and not some needy click farm.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by dhritzkiv on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:59PM (#23772483)
It's always a shame that W3Schools comes up before literally any other reference, notably MDN. I've always attributed it to their SEO efforts.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by admax88q on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:25PM (#23773870)
W3Schools and now TutorialsPoint.

While they're not bad per say, they;re never detailed enough of a reference. 99% of my webdev searches are now "mdn <topic>" as MDN is typically the most detailed resource on the topic (short of reading the exhaustingly verbose standards).

Of course now that I search "mdn <topic>" for everything I'm not training google's engine to match <topic> with the mdn resource, which helps cement w3schools as the top result for the topic

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by Jestar342 on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @07:04PM (#23775214)
> !mdn <term>

is the greatest tool of ddg. Hundreds of search shortcuts available as "bangs"

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by t0astbread on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @09:56PM (#23776247)
If you're using Firefox you can also go to MDN, right click the search box and click "Add a Keyword for this Search...". It's (almost) like a DDG Bang but local to your browser (and for me it's a lot faster too).

It gets even more crazy once you realize Firefox is just saving a bookmark with a form submission template and you can make forms that "send" GET requests to data URIs and if you combine that with the keyword search you can run tiny web apps from your bookmarks using "commands" in your omnibar!

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by admax88q on Thursday July 09, 2020 @10:22AM (#23780552)
I find the ddg search results load faster and are better indexed than the MDN built-in search, same goes for most sites that do their own indexing and are also indexed on big search engines.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by Jestar342 on Thursday July 09, 2020 @04:39AM (#23778168)
My default engine is already set to DDG anyway, so I can just !bang in the addressbar already.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by SahAssar on Friday July 10, 2020 @05:04AM (#23789548)
In my experience the search on MDN sucks, and I usually get much better MDN results by searching for "mdn <searchterm>" on DDG than I get for "<searchterm>" on mdn.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by Lorin on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:37PM (#23773967)
I use an extension aptly called 'Remove W3Schools' - I'll give you one guess as to what it does.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by randomstring on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:02PM (#23773665)
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by beefield on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @03:09PM (#23773221)
> This is a serious problem in all big search engines

I have never really understood why search engines do not let customers create blacklists of domains they do not want to see in the results. Are they really so cynical bastards that they understand that the crappy SEO results they cram down our throats are so good money to them that they can't afford us to hide them?

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by rhacker on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:22PM (#23773834)
Google used to allow that like 15 years ago.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by spurgu on Friday July 10, 2020 @06:08PM (#23797123)
Yeah I think I remember being able to hide Yahoo Anwers in some native way. Would love to get rid of Pinterest from image searches.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by dgut on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @04:39PM (#23773993)
From a UI perspective, how would this be implemented in a privacy friendly manner?
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by zepto on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:27PM (#23774421)
You mean without the search engine knowing what you are blacklisting?

Perhaps there is no good way, but in the case of Google, it seems like it wouldn’t change the privacy equation to have this not be private from them.

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by dgut on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:37PM (#23774524)
No, I mean, in what way can this feature be implemented and avoid sharing any PII (assuming the list itself is not PII, since that list could potentially be the same used by other users)? What about a text file hosted somewhere, and the only identifiable information is the cookie containing the link to that file?
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by zepto on Thursday July 09, 2020 @11:48AM (#23781515)
Are you looking for a way to avoid linking an individual user’s fingerprints with a blacklist?
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by dgut on Thursday July 09, 2020 @09:44PM (#23787310)
Yes, or rather: avoid that the blacklist becomes an individual user's fingerprints. Appreciate any suggestions on how to approach that.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by zepto on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @05:25PM (#23774407)
Yes
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by cooperadymas on Thursday July 09, 2020 @04:26PM (#23784758)
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem. You can easily jump to page 10 of the results and scour from there if you'd like. They are paginated.

If the big search engines broke the supposed bubble and put page 10 results on page 1, well, there would exist the exact same "bubble."

Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by skratlo on Wednesday July 08, 2020 @01:49PM (#23772323)
This is so on point, thanks for that. Pollution is indeed the right word for it.
Re:Show HN: Runnaroo – A new search engine by classics2 on Thursday July 09, 2020 @03:06AM (#23777707)
Seriously, this. Try searching for anything even remotely medical related. 100% garbage in every search engine.