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Re:Ridiculous Math Problems by agumonkey on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:01PM (#23741004)
Did this cause a toxin like stimulation making jewish students better because they tried to reach impossible goals ?

It happened in music a few times.. people invented techniques and subgenres because they tried impossible things or had below useful instruments.

Re:Ridiculous Math Problems by sukilot on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:14PM (#23741110)
When the impossible goal is to solve a 10x hard problem in 1x time live during an oral exam, no. But it did have a filter effect, so that the Jewish students who did pass the entrance test were much higher ability than their average peers.
Re:Ridiculous Math Problems by hintymad on Sunday July 05, 2020 @03:12PM (#23741100)
I doubt it. Those problems are close to impossible to solve for ordinary students, therefore many talented but not necessarily genius students lost the opportunity to get good education. I'm a firm believer that students need to be pushed to stay in their discomfort zone, but Jewish Problems can easily push most students into panic zone.
Re:Ridiculous Math Problems by elbear on Monday July 06, 2020 @01:27AM (#23744982)
That's one of the principles of deliberate practice: go just beyond the comfort zone, in the area where you feel a challenge, but an approachable one.
Re:Ridiculous Math Problems by nordsieck on Monday July 06, 2020 @07:11PM (#23753815)
The point of the Jewish Problems is that:

1. They're an entrance exam. They were explicitly designed to discriminiate against otherwise worthy candidates.

2. The key feature of the problems is that they are not difficult because they are an average example of a difficult branch of math. Instead they are easy problems, but they are only easy if you can figure out the correct substitution. Otherwise, they are extremely difficult. In other words, getting good at the problems won't make you a better mathematician, it'll just make you better at passing that particular test.

Re:Ridiculous Math Problems by elbear on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @05:07AM (#23757139)
I was only agreeing with the parent that students need to pushed out of their comfort zone, but just a little. Not a lot like the Jewish Problems were doing.