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Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by standardUser on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:09PM (#23728423)
"Political agenda, or something even more sinister..."

I think the simplest explanation is that the conservative right now views literally every issue as a them-versus-us issue, and as soon as it was clear that "they" thought we should wear masks, a very predictable conservative backlash occurred. I'm not sure if the president helped launch this particular battle in the "culture war" or was just a cheerleader as usual.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by XorNot on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:29PM (#23728551)
The US President absolutely launched this when he decided to make the existence - let's be clear, not the severity or the appropriate level of response, but initially it was the existence of a deadly virus - a political issue, and declared it was a hoax while standing in front of the White House.
Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by jki275 on Saturday July 04, 2020 @09:05AM (#23731965)
Can you cite the exact quote where he said that?
Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by XorNot on Tuesday July 07, 2020 @05:56PM (#23764538)
Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by jki275 on Thursday July 09, 2020 @09:56AM (#23780243)
That story doesn't even back up your claim.

My question was rhetorical. I know it's not true. I hoped you would look it up and realize your comment was inaccurate.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by rl3 on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:39PM (#23728625)
Foreign information warfare units absolutely want to be stoking that fire to the fullest extent possible.

Their election interference was so wildly successful that they'd have no reason not be trying to inflict further damage on the US now.

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Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by jariel on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:00PM (#23728762)
Over 120 000 Americans have died from COVID in the last few months, that's more than died during the Korean and Vietman wars put together - this is a pandemic.

To quell your conspiratorial concerns about 'masks' you need only visit most of the rest of the world and find out, particularly in close-quarters E. Asian countries, they've been doing it for some time.

Nobody is suggesting they are perfect, the messaging has been mixed, and we're not exactly sure of their efficiency, all of those things are allowed when supporting a 'pro mask' policy.

America has been losing the battle against COVID while E. Asian countries have been doing very well, and most of the rest of the world is doing 'OK' - popular US debate is the most ridiculous, least credible place for facts.

The CDC has some integrity, but this is a global phenom and literally everywhere else with integrity is taking this seriously.

People are not bing 'lied to' about masks, they're getting mixed messages because the issue is inherently grey.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by dang on Friday July 03, 2020 @11:40PM (#23729913)
Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by dang on Friday July 03, 2020 @11:39PM (#23729904)
Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by fwip on Friday July 03, 2020 @11:30PM (#23729865)
The flu and suicide put together kill half the people annually that covid has killed in six months. And that's with extraordinary measures taken to contain it.
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Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by ceejayoz on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:16PM (#23728837)
I went to a BLM protest about a week ago. Universal mask wearing there, and people were doing their best to distance as well. It's not that we "stopped talking about it"; it's that we didn't need to, because the rules were already being followed in that context.
Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by zaroth on Saturday July 04, 2020 @02:30AM (#23730562)
One of the big reasons why the CDC was against recommending masks in the first place was that it would ultimately make people feel like they were taking reasonable precautions while engaging in risky behaviors, and result in a net increase in the R factor rather than a reduction. Lo and behold...
Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by thoraway3030 on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:23PM (#23728512)
I'm not sure if the president helped launch this particular battle in the "culture war" or was just a cheerleader as usual

The US government reversed itself on masks and recommended them before the rest of the English-speaking world. The WHO only endorsed masks a few weeks ago. I don't like Trump, but these are facts.

It seems to have been politicized after Mike Pence visited the Mayo Clinic, and didn't wear a mask, and then Trump was then pushed on the issue, and reacted characteristically. If Pence had set a good example and worn a mask, or of there hadn't been a huge uproar about him not wearing a mask, would the issue have turned into a front in the culture war?

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by newacct583 on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:38PM (#23728611)
> The WHO only endorsed masks a few weeks ago. I don't like Trump, but these are facts.

That's not facts, that's spin. From your phrasing, it sounds like you're saying that prior to a "few weeks ago" that the WHO policy was somehow anti-mask. It wasn't, even in January. Their policy was always that PPE should be reserved for health care workers due to scarcity, and in a few (A FEW) instances their wording of that recommendation was poor and might plausibly imply that masks don't work.

No expert ever interpreted the WHO policy the way you people insist on doing. And at this point this insistence is just pathological.

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by thoraway3030 on Friday July 03, 2020 @07:53PM (#23728713)
and in a few (A FEW) instances their wording of that recommendation was poor and might plausibly imply that masks don't work.

Until Zeynep Tufekci's New York Times oped, the consensus was indeed that "masks don't work" for Covid. I documented numerous instances on social media of healthcare professionals insulting and belittling those who wore masks based on what you describe as "poor wording".

Here is a Time article from 4 March that sums up the expert consensus on masks at that point (in fact it has direct quotes from experts, including an infectious diseases professor, a leading psychologist, and the Surgeon General): that masking was "superstitious", didn't work and claiming that wearing a a mask equated to knocking on wood, or not walking under a ladder. https://time.com/5794729/coronavirus-face-masks/

Re:The science of mask-wearing hasn’t changed, so why have o... by standardUser on Friday July 03, 2020 @08:06PM (#23728791)
Trump has consistently made a point to not wear a mask, even when the places he was visiting specifically asked him to. Trump has also mentioned several times that he thinks masks should be optional. He has unequivocally and undeniable undermined harmed efforts to promote make mask wearing, and continues to do so.