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Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by hundchenkatze on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:06AM (#23652782)
Serious question - are they're any popular (define that how you like) sites that prominently use / require Flash?
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by jessedhillon on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:24AM (#23653023)
Ikea has a closet planner[0] that is actually quite good. It lets you visualize closet frames in 3D by placing them within a virtual bedroom, then add shelves, drawers and other accessories inside of them. Then once you're done, it can put all of your items into your cart or generate a shopping list.

It's probably ~10 years old at this point, so it would seem they've had long enough to see the writing on the wall and port it to a newer technology. OTOH I'm not sure that, even today, the stability or penetration of WebGL is comparable to where Flash was at its height (to say nothing of the available talent pool.)

I've taken a screenshot[1] so anyone who doesn't have Flash can take a look.

[0] https://www.ikea.com/us/en/planner/pax-planner/

[1] https://imgur.com/a/WW1lDCB

Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by logotype on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:52PM (#23654872)
13 years ago I was working on a project for IKEA, a room planner. We used Flash and it was a seriously ambitious project. The level of interactivity that was possible when using Flash was unrivalled for a long time. It appears that most of these type of “sites” has been replaced by native apps, even though the web platform has most of the required capabilities now. Flash was fun to develop with, as everything was well integrated and just worked, and pioneered many of the technologies we now see as part of the web platform APIs. A lot of the criticisms of Flash is due to shitty timeline-based banners which used up the CPU. You could definitively make efficient, fast performing apps/sites using Flash/AS3 if you knew what you were doing. Of course I moved on to JS/TS development, but it isn’t as fun.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by shadowgovt on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:40AM (#23653209)
The larger issue than stability is that WebGL is an entirely different framework, serving entirely different ends.

For the abstractions Flash supported (objects with behaviors, scenes, timelines), WebGL is way, way too low-level. WebGL is more the kind of thing someone would write Flash on top of.

Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by robin_reala on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:03PM (#23653503)
I think it’s OK to say that work is ongoing in this area.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by oldmanhorton on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:46AM (#23653293)
Xfinity Stream, the web viewer for Xfinity cable TV subscriptions, required flash as of a few months ago (haven't used it recently)
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by LeoPanthera on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:57AM (#23653426)
Just checked, seems to use HTML5 video now. Works for me and I don't have Flash.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by snazz on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:22PM (#23653738)
If I remember correctly, Xfinity Stream used Flash as a fallback when Widevine was unavailable. I just use the iPad app now.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by __s on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:14AM (#23652896)
Kongregate. Flash games are still out there, like elementsthegame.com
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by kgwxd on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:27AM (#23653059)
A good chunk of educational tools. I've had to fight with Chrome quite a few times since schooling from home started.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by altoidaltoid on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:24AM (#23653026)
My company contracts with a security training site. All the videos requires Flash.

<sigh>

Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by adrianmonk on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:34AM (#23653136)
I hope this training is about physical security, not IT security.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by JiNCMG on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:39AM (#23653201)
LOL! You fail the moment you login in with Flash!
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by adrianmonk on Friday June 26, 2020 @03:47PM (#23656170)
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by kstrauser on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:41AM (#23653220)
Maybe it was a pentesting lab and you get credit for the number of Flash instances you pwn.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by sah2ed on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:17PM (#23654404)
Are there any plans to move the content to a non-Flash solution?
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by acwan93 on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:15PM (#23653650)
The only thing I use on a semi regular basis that requires Flash is flight school lessons from King Schools. It's probably the only time I use Chrome.

I'd imagine businesses and organizations where software and tech isn't their primary investment would take some time to move away from Flash, especially if they have a business that depends on Flash still working. It's probably similar to the scenario where there's some vital app that requires computers to stay on Mac OS X Snow Leopard / Mojave / Windows 32-bit.

Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by m0xte on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:14AM (#23652902)
A large amount of the crap that was sold to U.K. schools is still random bits of rancid flash. The same schools also bought crates of iPads galore on which none of the software works. It’s a mess.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by jasode on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:38AM (#23653182)
The Citi credit card has a feature to generate "virtual card numbers" for one-time use but unfortunately, it's not purely web-based and requires the Flash runtime.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by flareback on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:19PM (#23654427)
Discover card used to have that feature. It was also a web-based flash app. I was hoping they'd rewrite it to not use Flash and keep it but they just killed the feature off.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by eyjafjallajokul on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:14AM (#23652897)
I don’t think any popular websites still use flash. Corporate internal systems though...
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by bitwize on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:15PM (#23653652)
Homestar Runner has been youtubing its old Flash content, but something is lost because the content was interactive. Hope they work something out with Ruffle or similar to archive the old site as is. The kids of today deserve to play Bronco Trolleys, Stinkoman, and Trogdor.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by kanox on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:22AM (#23652997)
Only reason I've used flash in the last few years was to file PTO.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by vimslayer on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:34PM (#23654605)
Finland's government-owned railway company, VR, has a notoriously bad train ticket reservation system that still uses Flash. They've only recently started to roll out more modern versions of the app (that are actually surprisingly ok quality from what I've seen). At some point (like years ago) when browsers started dropping support for Flash, we got some nice hacky solutions [1] from tired consumers because VR themselves weren't stepping up their game. At some point I even saw VR promoting that project on their Twitter as a solution when someone complained that they couldn't book tickets. They should've paid the author and just put it on their site.

[1]: https://github.com/tuomassalo/vr-no-flash

Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by Orphis on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:15AM (#23652916)
A lot of banks unfortunately.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by merlyn on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:23AM (#23653006)
I wouldn't say popular, but many of my internal network or SAN management items are flash based. Many are EOL'd, and can't be upgraded.

The only option is throw out working hardware just because we can no longer manage it...

Or another example, older VMware setups that may not be fully upgraded yet (again perhaps with older hardware preventing upgrades). All flash managed.

Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by ghaff on Friday June 26, 2020 @12:15PM (#23653653)
Can't you just run old browser versions with Flash in a VM somewhere? (Or a dedicated system.)
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by flareback on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:24PM (#23654478)
I was a contractor for a large insurance company (Fortune top 10). One of the main applications they used internally for managing mailings to people was a flash app. When I was hired my first question was when are we rewriting it and was told "It's being planned". I left in December and they still didn't have a plan.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by momothereal on Friday June 26, 2020 @11:44AM (#23653261)
Adobe Connect (Zoom equivalent) still uses Flash in the browser. Had to use it for some uni courses.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by vimslayer on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:20PM (#23654442)
I had to use Adobe Connect recently and they also had the option to install Adobe Connect as a desktop app that seemed awful lot like it was just Chrome/Electron with Flash preinstalled... Also no Linux support, which was fun to notice just before the meeting.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by momothereal on Sunday June 28, 2020 @08:37PM (#23673246)
Haha, I actually had the exact same flow. Guess I'll have to keep the dual-booted Windows for a little while longer.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by panzagl on Friday June 26, 2020 @02:32PM (#23655315)
Things like the web interfaces for UPSes, network storage, and blade server chassis of a certain age seem to be pretty evenly split between Flash and Java Applets, which is even worse.
Re:“Adobe Flash is no longer supported in Safari” by lewiscollard on Friday June 26, 2020 @01:19PM (#23654420)
livestream.com (owned by Vimeo) still requires Flash when I access it with Firefox. I occasionally used it to find obscure/minor motorsports livestreams from random parts of the world (before lockdown put an end to most of that).