The PlayStation 5

Re:The PlayStation 5 by walrus01 on Thursday June 11, 2020 @06:03PM (#23493762)

Support for 8K HDMI out tells me it's most likely rendering the games at 4K. There's no way that something with that hardware spec could render at 8K with any kind of usable frame rate. With $5500 and a credit card right now I could just barely build an x86-64 desktop capable of rendering games at 8K, poorly, at 20fps.

It'll be much the same way that an Xbox One S renders games at 1080p, but supports 2160p60 output, with a 1:4 upscaled output. The upscaler is not a difficult piece of silicon.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by giobox on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:20PM (#23495339)

Since the PS3, Sony have often used the headline theoretical resolution support of the HDMI port for marketing. Not all that many games on PS3 ran natively at 1080p either...

This level of performance is only just starting to tackle 4K at 60FPS reasonably for most high end games I’d imagine, if comparable gaming PCs available today are any indication.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by yurishimo on Thursday June 11, 2020 @06:50PM (#23494066)

Yeah, the 8k out is purely for content consumption future proofing. I'm guessing the cost to include a compliant port/chip was cheap enough to be worth it. In 5 years, if all video streaming content is in 8k, they'll be able to support it. Perhaps there are some new Blu-rays that will support 8k content as well.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by jimrandomh on Thursday June 11, 2020 @08:07PM (#23494561)

It's probably future proofing for VR. 8k@60Hz is the same bandwidth as two 4k panels as 120Hz, which is a reasonable target for the next generation of VR. You can't render a 3D environment at that resolution, but you can do a layered rendering where text is higher-res than the rest of the environment.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by reitzensteinm on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:24PM (#23495361)

Are you maybe overstating that? 8k should be worst case 25% the speed of 4k, so a single 2080 Ti should get you there in eg the new Modern Warfare.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by walrus01 on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:04PM (#23495597)

benchmarks I've seen for the 2080 ti and a really high end cpu + motherboard combo ($799 cpu + $399 motherboard), plus a ton of RAM, show FPS dropping to 21fps, 25fps, in a number of major games at 8k. Not what i'd call playable, even if the average fps might be 35-40fps.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by reitzensteinm on Friday June 12, 2020 @12:10AM (#23495934)

But your post said $5500 to get to 20fps. I think that budget would get you to 60 pretty easily.

You shouldn't need anything high end except the GPU, for the rest of the components it would be like hitting 60fps in 1080p.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by quantummkv on Friday June 12, 2020 @01:10AM (#23496238)

> But your post said $5500 to get to 20fps. I think that budget would get you to 60 pretty easily.

The 2080ti is the fastest gaming GPU on the market right now. Period. It does not matter what your budget is, you cannot buy a faster GPU that that. Even if you buy a $10,000 quadro, you won't more than 5% extra performance in a best case scenario over the 2080ti.

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Re:The PlayStation 5 by reitzensteinm on Friday June 12, 2020 @03:43AM (#23497009)

Er, have you ever heard of NVLink? Presumably a $5500 PC chasing 8k wouldn't just have a single graphics card...

RTX 2080 Ti SLI (NVLink) Battlefield 4 [8K 60FPS]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBqjy7bCoBE

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019) - 8k 60FPS [RTX ON] 2x RTX 2080 Ti Max Settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMVWRrOmSCQ

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