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Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by asdfasgasdgasdg on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:08AM (#23489034)
There's no controversy here though. What IA did was plainly on the "not legal" side of the line. (I mean, there are surely some people who believe otherwise, but you can find someone who believes almost anything.)
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by waheoo on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:25AM (#23489220)
Last i checked rosa parks did something illegal too.

Not all laws need to be followed.

And just because some people will beleive anything doesnt make this belief any less relevant or important.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by asdfasgasdgasdg on Thursday June 11, 2020 @12:04PM (#23490258)
You may feel that the dismantling of copyright is an issue on par with civil rights. However, that sentiment is rare, and isn't supported by any plain reading of the constitution, unlike racial equality. IA's not going to be setting any precedents in the defense of the lawsuit. They are going to be handed a swift, expensive, and one-sided defeat.
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by waheoo on Thursday June 11, 2020 @06:59PM (#23494114)
The sentiment that blacks are equal was rare once too.

I find your understanding of this rather contrived given that your constitution has nothing to do with me.

Your ip laws on the other hand, well, they stretch far and wide around countries that would rather have nothing to do with you.

I would prefer, if youre going to refute my claims, you at least acknowledge them.

Like, the fact ip law had a net benefit to society when they were conceived. But have since been twisted and applied dishonestly.

Can anyone tell me what the real damage would be if we limited copyright terms to one year? And what would be the real benefit to society at large to freely access information?

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by asdfasgasdgasdg on Friday June 12, 2020 @12:00AM (#23495890)
What you're talking about isn't the same as what I'm talking about. I'm dealing with the idea that there's a precedent setting end to IA's decision. There isn't. They don't have a snowball's chance in a supernova of winning this case. It's was just dumb.

Your concerns about the effect of America's IP laws is a totally different issue. Your government presumably either believes that IP law is a net benefit today, or else wants something else that america had enough to hold their nose and make a deal. There are some political steps you can take to try to reverse that scenario but I'm afraid IA's actions here have no bearing on that. They can't possibly help you at all.

As to the rest of what you said, does it have merit? I don't know. What I do know is that IA will be worse off after this lawsuit is done.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by phkahler on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:34AM (#23489330)
Rosa Park took a personal risk. People at IA are risking the archive.
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by sukilot on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:02AM (#23489614)
No, she didn't!

Rosa Parks launched a boycott to protest a bus system that was so racist that even the horrific Jim Crow laws weren't enough for bus drivers who kicked off black people (and police officers who arrested them) who had a legal right to their seats.

Other protests broke the law with sit-ins.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by mburns on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:20AM (#23489798)
Rosa Parks was arrested and convicted for breaking a city law.
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by waheoo on Thursday June 11, 2020 @07:04PM (#23494142)
Dont bother, these people have no intention of coming back and changing their minds. They made them up long ago.