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Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by nordsieck on Thursday June 11, 2020 @04:42AM (#23486539)
> If you want to establish a legal precedent, you can't just go to a court and ask them to. Courts only hear "cases and controversies" -- to establish what the law is, you have to get somebody to sue you.

> The reason this could bankrupt them is mostly because they don't have a lot of money. Their net assets are only a couple million dollars. They have to raise more than that every year just to keep operating.

Are you trying to claim that Internet Archive purposely tried to set a precedent, knowing they don't have enough money to actually do it? That sounds like a pretty damning accusation of gross incompetence.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by kerkeslager on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:33AM (#23489313)
I would rather support organizations that make strategic blunders than organizations which compromise their principles.
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by sukilot on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:02AM (#23489620)
You can't when organizations make blunders that destroy themselves.
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by kerkeslager on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:12AM (#23489720)
I can, do, and will. There has to be room in the charity ecosystem for organizations that take risks.

It remains to be seen whether this blunder will actually destroy the Internet Archive.

In general, I think the idea that good things have to last forever is overrated. Organizations willing to compromise their values eventually drift away from those values completely, which is worse than simply ceasing to exist--such organizations can linger on and do more harm than good.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by ComputerGuru on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:14AM (#23489731)
How is staying out of this altogether “compromising their principles?”
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by kerkeslager on Thursday June 11, 2020 @11:17AM (#23489762)
"Our mission is to provide Universal Access to All Knowledge."[1]

That is pretty unambiguous.

[1] https://archive.org/about/

EDIT: The previous version of this post was unnecessarily combative, in response to what may have been a good faith question. Sorry.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by salawat on Thursday June 11, 2020 @09:57AM (#23488930)
>Are you trying to claim that Internet Archive purposely tried to set a precedent, knowing they don't have enough money to actually do it?

Well, at least there's an implicit admission justice is bought by the highest bidder.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by saikia81 on Thursday June 11, 2020 @07:43AM (#23487770)
They can count on support from many. Maybe they have a plan.
Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by nordsieck on Thursday June 11, 2020 @02:46PM (#23492041)
> They can count on support from many. Maybe they have a plan.

I've looked at the complaint, and I've lived through the Napster trial. It would be one thing if they had a good case and just needed funds to make it through the trial. That's not what's going on here.

When you mix statutory copyright violation with digital technology, you get infinite fines. Any money you donate is going to the book publishers at the end of the day.

Re:Activists rally to save Internet Archive as lawsuit threa... by 6510 on Thursday June 11, 2020 @02:27PM (#23491821)
We just pay the bill again and go - meh?