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Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by cheald on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:27PM (#23460401)
"Received: 22 March 2020" - direct from the study cover page at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2404-8_reference....

States imposed lockdowns between March 21 and early April. Someone want to explain to me how a study submitted before the lockdowns were issued (nevermind had time to actually have an impact) "found" those results?

Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by sauwan on Monday June 08, 2020 @07:47PM (#23462080)
It must be a typo. March 22nd was a Sunday, where May 22nd was a Friday. It seems unlikely that it would take over 2 months to accept it, considering so many other articles are being rushed to publication in fractions of that time.

ETA: also, charts in that publication also show data collected from April, so unlikely they had data from the future.

Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by sukilot on Monday June 08, 2020 @02:39PM (#23459376)
Study suggests, not finds. Simulation models can't "find" facts. Observation finds facts.
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by undersuit on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:53PM (#23460671)
Didn't the study of the simulation model find facts about the simulation model?
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by rogerkirkness on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:57AM (#23457718)
So far.
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by djoshea on Monday June 08, 2020 @12:23PM (#23457978)
Exactly. I believe the 60 million infections delta was estimated for April 6th (figure 4), so the counterfactual would be considerably worse as of today.
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by sukilot on Monday June 08, 2020 @02:38PM (#23459367)
"So far" meaning "might save more later" or "only postponed, not prevented"?
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by LorenPechtel on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:33PM (#23460451)
By now we have learned that masks + distancing is enough to stop this (Drive R0 below 1, it will die out in time.) If we were serious about doing these things the cases--and deaths--would be prevented, not merely postponed.
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by oarabbus_ on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:12PM (#23460249)
The latter. That's always what "flattening the curve" has meant. The total area under the curve (i.e. total unique infected individuals) stays about the same.
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by thephyber on Monday June 08, 2020 @07:26PM (#23461915)
"Flattening the curve" is not the only possible outcome.

A cure, an inoculation, or segmenting geographic regions until localized herd immunity (like New Zealand just did) are all examples of cutting the curve short.

Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by oarabbus_ on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @04:13PM (#23470372)
Vaccines are far away from approval for widespread use, and New Zealand's situation as an island nation is not applicable to something like 98% of the World's population and quite frankly, irrelevant to the discussion.
Re:Shutdowns prevented 60M coronavirus infections in the U.S... by madmaniak on Monday June 08, 2020 @04:33PM (#23460445)
Simulacrum.