Please don't post denunciatory rhetoric to HN. It's tedious. Worse, it acidifies the thread. Those two things are a double dose of poison for curiosity, which is the entire point of this site.

You can make your substantive points thoughtfully without damaging this place in the process. Please do it that way instead.

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I think one thing that makes them stagnate is the sheer magnitude of their advertising business. Google is not interested in expanding to other things unless it is either furthering the amount of data they are collecting for advertising, or it has some massive run rate. That is why they are infamous for canning projects that are actually working, they just are not working big enough for google to care past its many billions advertising.

> What have they created since 2010 that is even remotely interesting?

Translate has gotten a hell of a lot better and it's been helpful for humanity, for one thing.

I think it existed before 2010. But then, several Google services have improved since 2010. (Not search though...)

It's hard to remember exactly what result quality was like in 2010, but I'm very satisfied with the utility I get form Google search. I can throw a dozen different oddball questions at it and either get the answer directly (without even needing to click through to an often slow and cluttered page), or get what I was looking for as the top result. They do all this in an extremely adversarial environment where "SEO" people spend the majority of their effort trying to boost their pages for specific words.

Google is manipulating search results in bad faith: It has admitted engaging in political censorship of results to divert traffic away from undesirable sites.

Also, it seems to have a bias in favor of the larger websites generally, but this is an anecdotal observation of mine, there may or may not be evidence to support it.

There's a lot of truth in what you're saying but Google did create some interesting products in its second decade, here's the list I came up with:

- Google Assistant is advanced magic. Much better than Apple's Siri or Amazon's Alexa, IMO.

- Google Photos is great.

- TensorFlow is close to its industry's standard.

- Chromebooks and Chrome OS are a hit.

- The Pixel line of phones is great, especially their industry leading camera innovations.

A little off topic: I had the worst experience with Chromebooks, I used one a short time ago and couldn't install essentially anything outside of "approved" google apps. No package manager, 3d modelling software, my whole dev workflow just didn't work. I eventually bit the bullet and bought a 2019 macbook pro to get back to some semblance of sanity. My 2015 had passed :/. Does anyone do dev work on chromebooks?

No, because Chromebooks aren't meant to be good Dev machines. Just like feature phones aren't good at being camera replacements.

The difference between a camera phone and a professional camera is one of hardware. The difference between a Chromebook and a useful computer is one of software. Installing Debian on my Chromebook Pixel turned a pointless toy into a reasonable tool. It doesn't matter what software you install on your camera phone, the sensor and glass will still be shit.

Unless your entire dev workflow happens in Google chrome I'm a little confused why you bought a chromebook for development work

I didn't buy it, it's something somehow had extra that I tried to make work for a bit

You get a nice Linux VM built into Chrome OS now. Linux apps and files are integrated in the OS.

Kubernetes? BeyondCorp? I'm sure there is plenty. Perhaps they just stink at commercializing anything other than their ad platforms?

Your rejoinder makes OP's point better than they did.

Chromecast (2013) is pretty great.

Oh yes Photos Tensorflow Spanner ...not even remotely interesting. Waymo. I'll wait for you to cherry pick another time frame. 99% of people here would work at Google in a heart beat but love to write snarky comments here. Many admittedly jealous of the fact that they couldn't get in. Have fun peddling the hate.

Please don't respond in the flamewar style regardless of how wrong or provocative another comment was. It just makes the thread even worse, and it's against the site guidelines too: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

99% of people here are sitting around jealous of Google?

Sounds doubtful. I would guess there are more people here who have already been there done that at one of the big tech companies then there are people sitting around jealous.