Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by Gatsky on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @11:51AM
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Of the top 10 most highly cited papers that have been retracted, 3 of them are in the Lancet, more than any other journal [1].
[1] https://retractionwatch.com/the-retraction-watch-leaderboard...
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by dsjoerg on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @12:51PM
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That number can't be interpreted without context — how many of the top 100 most highly cited papers are in the Lancet? If it's ~30 then your data point doesn't mean anything.
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by triceratops on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @05:08PM
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Papers in Lancet are generally more highly cited than average, since it's the most prominent and respected medical journal. Is it any surprise that even the retracted papers in Lancet are highly cited? Surely that's a function of their visibility.
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by ufo on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @12:47PM
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I'm not sure what kind of conclusion we can take from that dataset. It is only 10 papers and it doesn't take into account the average number of citations for the non-retracted articles in each journal.
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by Gatsky on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @12:56PM
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I was asked to provide examples of the Lancet's poor track record, which I have done. I am not trying to prove it is better or worse than any other journal.
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by _Microft on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @03:34PM
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How do you know that it is a poor track record if you do not know how it is ranked against others?
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by jtc331 on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @05:53PM
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Even if the Lancet had published all top 10 highly cited papers, wouldn’t 3 of them being retracted be concerning to you?
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by mkl on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @07:29PM
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It's a list of "Top 10 most highly cited retracted papers", not "Top 10 most highly cited papers". Without more information about highly cited papers in general (e.g. what proportion are in the Lancet?), we can't tell exactly how concerning 3 being from the Lancet should be.
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by Gatsky on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @09:01PM
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A top tier journal has 3 papers with >500 citations that turned out to be bullshit in the last 10 years. One of them is probably the premiere example of academic misconduct in the last 50 years, catalysing the anti-vax movement and causing untold harm. What's your definition of poor?
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by Angostura on Monday June 08, 2020 @09:18AM
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> I am not trying to prove it is better or worse than any other journal.
In that case it's not really clear why you decide to stop reading the Lancet, rather than any other journal? Or have you stopped reading all journals
Re:A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical jou...
by asmithmd1 on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @11:26AM
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Autism and vaccine study https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2010/02/lancet_wak...
Would you care to name some others?