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Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by Jaxkr on Saturday May 30, 2020 @01:53PM (#23363105)
Apple has really lost their touch, software quality has declined dramatically
Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by SaltyBackendGuy on Saturday May 30, 2020 @02:14PM (#23363281)
Anecdotally, I upgraded my wife's iMac to Catalina and she's experiencing issues (rendering latency) she's never had before (hadn't upgraded the OS since buying it 4 years ago). I figured is was good to get on the latest and greatest for security reasons, now she wont let me touch her computer anymore.
Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by ksec on Saturday May 30, 2020 @02:24PM (#23363368)
I used to be on the latest and security camp as well. But after all these years I am starting to understand why people dont update.

It is extremely frustrating. Especially when Catalina removes features that were working perfectly.

Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday May 30, 2020 @02:36PM (#23363464)
I’m still on High Sierra, most recent 10.13.6 security update was ~3 days ago.

I’ll upgrade when some piece of software I need to use requires it.

Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by alphaomegacode on Saturday May 30, 2020 @04:44PM (#23364535)
As an Apple user for decades, have to say that High Sierra seemed to be one of their better recent releases.

I have an iMac that uses it and a Mac Mini that is on Mojave and for some reason, High Sierra just feels more stable with some software.

Firefox runs fine on High Sierra and has crashed multiple times in the past few weeks after using it on Mojave.

Maybe I'm just biased having used High Sierra for so long and dreading Catalina lol.

Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by lowdose on Saturday May 30, 2020 @03:07PM (#23363734)
I went to Mojave and that went without trouble except I lost the ability to use my external GPU, but I knew that.
Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by TheSpiceIsLife on Saturday May 30, 2020 @04:00PM (#23364133)
Mojave removed Facebook, Twitter, Vimeo, and Flickr, integrations, none of which I use, so that would be good.

But I’m not aware of any new feature in Mojave I want or need, so the 2013 MacBook Pro Retina I’m using will stay on High Sierra for today :)

Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by dwaite on Saturday May 30, 2020 @10:53PM (#23366761)
FWIW, they added the ability for these companies to control their own integrations by publishing iOS and Mac apps.

It's just that so far, only Twitter has bothered to do so on Mac. Even software like Slack which does so for iOS just hasn't bothered to port that code to their Mac app - most likely because of the Mac app using a different Electron-based codebase.

Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by hootbootscoot on Saturday May 30, 2020 @04:02PM (#23364146)
I'm about this close to making an e-petition demanding Snow Leopard FOSS for posterity, now that they have successfully milked us all multiple times. My 2011 hardware works just fine, and 'obsolete' is meaningless in a world where IRC was replaced by Slack and where Visual Basic tutorial fodder from 1998 become MVP web products...
Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by StreamBright on Saturday May 30, 2020 @02:46PM (#23363542)
Welcome to the late adopter group. Never upgrade, unless it is absolutely necessary.
Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by iphone_elegance on Saturday May 30, 2020 @02:09PM (#23363238)
does it really matter though?
Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by hootbootscoot on Saturday May 30, 2020 @04:04PM (#23364173)
Someone with an AV production studio totalling over $100k in Apple products and a few million in outboard gear whose drivers worked fine before may just care a bit...

The whole pro-multimedia production crowd probably cares...

(vs the current Apple paramour: the multimedia consumer who wants to order pizza and get back to netflix on their phablet or whatever..)

Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by VMisTheWay on Saturday May 30, 2020 @03:22PM (#23363853)
I'm not sure if Apple ever had quality.

They are the Nintendo of Computing. They have some novelties, but in general they are average at their best. Notice that both Nintendo and Apple are big advertisers.

Re:Zero-day in Sign in with Apple by neop1x on Sunday May 31, 2020 @07:43PM (#23374101)
It is more fashion than technology. Like ordinary clothes from famous brands. Expensive, praised yet nothing special.