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Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by jbooth on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @03:12PM (#2333432)
Good god, that's the biggest non-point I've heard in my life.

You could've worked in something about potassium content of bananas while you were at it.

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by dexen on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @03:57PM (#2333598)
I believe his point runs along the lines of, ``there are radioactive elements released with coal smoke''. Which may be a big surprise to many people.

NB., a fun experiment: explain a smoker that the cigarette contains proverbial half of the Mendeleyev table.

In any case, the theoretical content of fissible elements in coal may be significant, but it doesn't seem to be economical to extract it at this point. We have heaps of uranium ore, and nuclear fusion seems to be around the corner.

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by Karzyn on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @05:39PM (#2334066)
Fusion power is 20 years away and always will be.

Less snarkily, is there actually good reason to believe that we're any closer to usable fusion?

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by hartror on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @07:48PM (#2334476)
Actually physicists are saying "Fusion power is 20 years away" without sniggering now!
Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by dexen on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @07:35PM (#2334445)
The second space race is a reliable reason to believe.

Several governments bet big (well, perhaps medium) money on race to the Moon, to extract helium-3 [3] from water ice in there. A key component to commercial nuclear fusion -- and with only small-time other uses in medicine and stuff.

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[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3#Fusion_reactions

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by jbooth on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @03:59PM (#2333609)
Yeah, but there's trace radioactive elements in literally everything on earth.

Hence, the biggest non point I've ever seen in my life. Unless coal is actually radioactive to a noteworthy significantly-more-than-a-banana extent, which I probably would have heard of by now (not that I haven't been wrong before).

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by cromulent on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @04:34PM (#2333770)
His point has little to do with bananas and much to do with the danger of radiation and how it is commonly attributed to nuclear power plants rather than coal.

Here is an example of someone else making the same point:

http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.ht...

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by dexen on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @04:31PM (#2333754)
You are right about the facts. And perhaps that's a non-point on well-educated HN. But the general public seems to be under-appreciating the pervasiveness of natural radiation, and freaking out about any nuclear contraptions. In some countries you can't even import those glowing tritium keychains :-(
Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by fleitz on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @04:44PM (#2333814)
heh i still smoke. im less interested in finding out all the ways i could die, and much more interested in finding all the ways to live.
Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by dexen on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @05:13PM (#2333948)
On a very off-topic note, I fell madly in love with Totally Wicked Mini DSE901 [1]. And since I started composing liquids to my taste, I'm half-way in heaven ;-)

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[1] http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/electronic-cig...

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by neutronicus on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @03:47PM (#2333563)
The dose due to actinide particulates from coal is a non-negligible part of your annual exposure.
Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by glhaynes on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @03:17PM (#2333452)
It depends on how much there is, doesn't it?...
Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by jbooth on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @03:24PM (#2333473)
It does, and the answer is "trace amounts".

Your body has trace amounts of uranium as well. What's everyone so worried about?! Obviously the substance is perfectly safe.

Re:Deaths per unit of energy for various sources by dexen on Wednesday March 16, 2011 @03:43PM (#2333553)
On average, one `Banana equivalent dose' per banana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose

And no, that's not a joke; it's a convenient measure of low radiation levels. Bananas are more naturally radioactive due to high potassium contents.