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Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by xenadu02 on Friday May 22, 2020 @12:30PM (#23273867)
Xcode (the UI) is able to bypass GateKeeper checks for things it builds.

The "Developer Tool" pane in System Prefs, Security, Privacy is the same power. Drag anything into that list you'd like to grant the same privilege (such as xcodebuild). This is inherited by child processes as well.

The point of this is to avoid malware packing bits of Xcode with itself and silently compiling itself on the target machine, thus bypassing system security policy.

Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by indemnity on Friday May 22, 2020 @03:21PM (#23275865)
Reminds me of the AV exception folder our corporate IT created for developers. Soon absolutely everything developers needed or created was installed into that folder. Applications, IDEs, you name it.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by kunday on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:18AM (#23290529)
Guilty as accused. I try to keep to an absolute minimum. Like docker data-dir and IDE. With that i can atleast use my machine.

otherwise this macos notarisation, along with a possibly of cpu heating issues with left thunderbolt usage and corporate av scanning, makes my machine, next to useless

Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by LeoPanthera on Friday May 22, 2020 @02:27PM (#23275307)
Putting Terminal (and your favorite text editor) in this category and in "Full Disk Access" will change your life.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by MrBuddyCasino on Saturday May 23, 2020 @02:45AM (#23280562)
How does "Full Disk Access" help?
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by lloeki on Saturday May 23, 2020 @05:17AM (#23281431)
You can browse Time Machine backup directory trees from the CLI again.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by sneak on Friday May 22, 2020 @04:06PM (#23276327)
Yes, falling victim to ransomware is definitely lifechanging if you don’t have good backups.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by LeoPanthera on Friday May 22, 2020 @05:11PM (#23277089)
That is a non-sequitur.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by mperham on Friday May 22, 2020 @06:19PM (#23277717)
It's not; they are stating that if you bypass these security checks, you open the machine up to ransomware.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by justinmeiners on Saturday May 23, 2020 @01:04AM (#23280063)
better not turn on it at all, to be extra safe
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by grishka on Friday May 22, 2020 @02:32PM (#23275358)
So since these permissions apply to process trees, what happens if you put launchd in there?
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by aasasd on Friday May 22, 2020 @04:28PM (#23276564)
The computer will probably hang while it tries to solve the chicken-egg problem.

Isn't launchd Mac's ‘init’? I.e. run before anything else.

Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by grishka on Friday May 22, 2020 @05:16PM (#23277155)
Yes, and that's the point — everything you run will theoretically inherit the permission from it.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by acecilia on Saturday May 23, 2020 @10:33AM (#23283242)
Can you advise on how to make the "Developer Tool" panel in "System Prefs, Security, Privacy" appear if it is not present? Cant find a way: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60176405/macos-catalina-...
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by saagarjha on Sunday May 24, 2020 @04:05AM (#23289992)
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by acecilia on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:46AM (#23290651)
Thanks for the link. Tried it, but that did not work
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by wila on Friday May 22, 2020 @07:07PM (#23278110)
GateKeeper only triggers the check for things downloaded from the internet. IOW, it checks if your binary has a quarantine flag attached via an extended attribute.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by xenadu02 on Friday May 22, 2020 @08:16PM (#23278576)
That is not correct starting with Catalina.
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by make3 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @01:56PM (#23284958)
How do I get a "Developer Tool" pane in System Prefs? Do I have to install X-Code? I would really rather not
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by saagarjha on Sunday May 24, 2020 @04:05AM (#23289991)
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by closeparen on Friday May 22, 2020 @01:49PM (#23274912)
This is life-changing. Thank you!
Re:MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design? by pindab0ter on Friday May 22, 2020 @05:58PM (#23277547)
What did you notice?