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Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by umeshunni on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:29PM (#23225495)
The title is a reference to this series of slides in the Softbank earnings presentation:

https://imgur.com/a/90bxNjo

https://group.softbank/system/files/pdf/ir/presentations/201...

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by rubidium on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:44PM (#23226717)
And that wasn't even the craziest slide of the presentation.

"Information Revolution - Happiness for Everyone"

I had to wipe the coffee off my screen.

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by aabhay on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:41PM (#23228706)
That’s not the first time that slide has appeared on a Softbank deck. In fact, that deck is nowhere close to being the most insane SoftBank deck.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by ashtonkem on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:05PM (#23230616)
Maybe they should hire someone to come up with normal slides, it can’t be good to be seen publicly losing money hand over first and making slides that look like they belong on Wait But Why.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by tim333 on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @02:04AM (#23231716)
I quite like the "Information Revolution - Happiness for Everyone" aspiration. Just needs a bit more work.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by zacksinclair on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:15PM (#23226248)
Holy shit. They actually put that into a slide deck? Wow
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by gnicholas on Monday May 18, 2020 @03:08PM (#23227019)
I once saw a presentation with a slide that said “failure = success”. Yes, I am aware that this happened on HBO’s Silicon Valley, and no that’s not where I saw it.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by seph-reed on Monday May 18, 2020 @07:56PM (#23229788)
Check out the Pepsi logo design doc if you want a real laugh: https://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell...
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by aunlead on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @12:33AM (#23231292)
Attraction Theory: The Pepsi Proposition

Establishment of a gravitational pull to shift from a “transactional” experience to an “invitational” expression.

Is this for real!! I had to look up Pepsi's current logo to believe this.

They paid $1 million for the logo (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pepsis-nonsensical-logo-redesig...)

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by eli_gottlieb on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:25PM (#23226404)
So they're saying one out of every three unicorns infected with the novel coronavirus will emerge as a winged unicorn?
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by pkilgore on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:11PM (#23228427)
"While reading a post on hacker news, a Softbank earnings call presentation caused me to google the difference between a unicorn and a Pegasus" is just one of those sentences that sounds Insane in prior to 2020.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by bentcorner on Monday May 18, 2020 @06:04PM (#23228922)

           | no wings |  wings
  ---------+----------+--------
  no horn  |  horse   | pegasus
  ---------+----------+--------
  horn     | unicorn  | alicorn
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by riffraff on Monday May 18, 2020 @06:09PM (#23228975)
Notice "alicorn" is actually the name of the unicorns' horn, historically.

At some point people started using it for winged unicorns, presumably because "Ali" would be Latin for "wings" but this seems a recent development.

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by duaoebg on Monday May 18, 2020 @06:35PM (#23229178)
I wonder if it’s My Little Pony related
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by egypturnash on Monday May 18, 2020 @07:59PM (#23229799)
MLP popularized this usage but it predates that.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by BerislavLopac on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @06:51AM (#23233452)
I think the one in the first field is known as "pegacorn": http://www.dorktower.com/2018/10/23/my-kingdom-for-a-pegacor...
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by m463 on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:35PM (#23230775)

  sudo pacman -S ponysay
  ponythink this is awesome
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by MattGaiser on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:40PM (#23225676)
SoftBank could have saved money on all the high resolution graphics...
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by jacquesm on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:02PM (#23226022)
They could have saved a lot more by not doing so many stupid investments.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by blobbers on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:28PM (#23226443)
Think of all the stupid jobs that wouldn't have been created if they didn't make their stupid investments.

There'd be a total collapse in the stupidity market.

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by ChuckMcM on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:39PM (#23226626)
Pedantically, that statement isn't fair, an investment is only stupid or genius in hindsight, at the time it is just a choice.

They could have saved a lot more by making better choices about what to invest in. :-)

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by AnimalMuppet on Monday May 18, 2020 @04:27PM (#23227937)
I'm not sure I agree. I think some of them were stupid at the time of the investment. The larger the wishful thinking component, the more likely it's a stupid investment.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by ChuckMcM on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:16PM (#23228469)
I hear you. I did an experiment post dot com crash which was to add notes in my journal about investments that were announced. I added my own evaluation next to it as 'makes sense' or 'doesn't make sense.' That helped me contextualize my looking back at things.

I did this after I had turned down a high level engineering job at Netscape pre-IPO because, in my evaluation, every time they tried to charge money for their main product "Communicator" nobody would buy it, and I felt the market for their ecommerce server software was competing against a free alternative. That choice, leave Sun (an Internet powerhouse) or join a startup that couldn't sell its primary product, I considered the leave Sun choice 'stupid' at the time. It cost me about $7M in theory because that is what my options would have been worth (and yes they would have vested before the crash hit).

Since I spent an unhealthy amount of time self criticizing my "choice mistakes" I took it upon myself to figure out if I was being realistic or not. My experience, based on my journal notes, was that I was wrong about half the time. So my criticism was unwarranted. It also helped temper any unrealistic feelings about my own abilities based on successes that were, largely luck driven.

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by AnimalMuppet on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:37PM (#23228670)
That's... sobering. But were you wrong about Netscape? Or were you right, but it took the market long enough to catch on that you left a lot of money on the table? I think the latter, but would defer to your opinion if you disagree.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by ChuckMcM on Monday May 18, 2020 @07:22PM (#23229545)
I have since come to the conclusion that I was both right and wrong.

If you analyze the meta-branching of that decision you can see at least three branches.

1) The one I took which was to stay at Sun. In this universe my employee purchase options continued to grow, Sun's stock split again, and my net worth grew by more than my annual salary that year.

2) In this first alternate, I take the job at Netscape in May of 1995, and become a multi-millionaire (on paper) in August. Using historical data for Netscape, and knowing that when they went public they had a 1 year lockout on employee sales, if I were to have sold 1/4th of my option on the anniversary of the IPO in each of 1996, 1997, 1997, and 1998, my net worth would go up to roughly $9.8M net of income taxes assuming I didn't file an 83b election (not that I could of come up with the cash to vest all my shares anyway at that time but whatever)

3) I take the job at Netscape, I am holding multiple millions of dollars in stock which become AOL stock in 1998 and don't sell them, they become nearly worthless 5 years later.

The illustration is that there is a path and different choices along the path end in different endings.

As it turned out, after Netscape went public, realizing that I was not going to make a whole lot of money on Sun stock as an employee, I left and started a startup with some other ex-Sun employees.

My take away from all of this was that decisions are neither "right" nor "wrong", rather they are just inflections in the timeline. Sometimes the timeline has given you additional advantage, and sometimes it has taken it away, the trick for me was to not get greedy. When there was "enough" advantage, lock in the benefit and move on, when there was "enough" disadvantage, stop digging the hole and move on. But most importantly for my mental health, as long as the slope was generally on the upswing, then don't sweat the choices that didn't work out.

With all that being said, I'm also a big fan of learning from decisions and trying to put into my toolkit things that would have illuminated the upside and downside more clearly if I had done them at the time. Case in point, "Never join a startup where the two senior leaders are both in a relationship and their reporting relationship at home is different than the one they have at work." and "Never join a startup that has never had to defend its existence to a skeptical investor."

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by blobbers on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:59PM (#23228877)
You can try to make better decisions, but it's hard to have better timing. While, a gut feeling or a statistic for the market's rationality curve might be possible, it certainly seems wiser to make better decisions.

In today's economy Netscape's value would be in its user base in the same way one would expect chrome to be valuable. In the data marketing world, nothing is really free.

Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by jacquesm on Monday May 18, 2020 @04:07PM (#23227714)
Fair enough.
Re:The Unicorns Fell into a Ditch by hiharryhere on Monday May 18, 2020 @06:58PM (#23229358)
Slides 50-54 in that second link are wild.