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Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by oh-4-fucks-sake on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:00PM (#23183044)
For just a free, straight-forward, full-featured PDF reader/viewer/text-finder I've been a long time user of Foxit Reader: https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-reader/

It's a mature product at this point and have had a good experience for years now.

Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by 0x38B on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:07PM (#23184695)
I haven't used it on Mac, but PDF Expert[1] from Readdle has been great on my iPad - I use it to both read and edit PDFs. It's fast and the UI is intuitive.

1: https://pdfexpert.com/

Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by abrogator on Thursday May 14, 2020 @11:41PM (#23188657)
Just tried it. PDF Expert would not display the government fillable forms that Preview also will not display.

The app offered to convert the PDFs if I would email them to PDF Expert, and suggested Adobe products as an alternative. Nice try, but Foxit displayed the PDFs and allowed me to fill in the fields.

Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by azinman2 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:41PM (#23183584)
On the Mac (which this article is about), what do you use Foxit for that built in Preview.app can’t do?
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by erichurkman on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:43PM (#23184389)
I still routinely encounter fillable forms that Preview.app can't handle, particularly with checkboxes or large text areas. It also frequently uses the wrong font in PDF forms meaning text doesn't fit in the prescribed form fields.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by weiming on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:56PM (#23184556)
You can also overlay your own text in Preview, ignoring the PDF's own textbox.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by erichurkman on Friday May 15, 2020 @06:56PM (#23198480)
That doesn't work for sites that then process filled PDF forms, unfortunately. And it incredibly time consuming for some forms that have dozens or more of checkboxes and fields to fill in.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by pfranz on Thursday May 14, 2020 @05:49PM (#23185990)
Does Foxit work for those and other edge cases? I've used Preview.app for years and only the past few months have encountered incompatible PDFs. I reluctantly downloaded Acrobat Reader. The PDF required a signature and locked the document for editing...that was annoying and not completely obvious.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by abrogator on Thursday May 14, 2020 @11:38PM (#23188619)
Just tried it. Foxit works with the fillable government forms that I have not been able to read for months because Preview won't display them.

I agonized about installing Acrobat Reader, but Suspicious Package says it wants to run 88 install scripts. I don't feel like tracking down that much malware when I uninstall it after filling out a form.

Go Foxit!

Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by dkmar on Thursday May 14, 2020 @05:21PM (#23185666)
My use case is making lots of highlights in textbook PDFs and I usually can't highlight for long before it beachballs. PDF Expert is a huge upgrade in this respect.

Readdle just needs to add exact phrase searching/finding; then it'll be wholly better than Preview imo.

You can read more about Preview's struggles with annotations here https://eclecticlight.co/2020/04/07/how-preview-mangles-anno...

Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by MaxBarraclough on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:06PM (#23183114)
I used to recommend Foxit too, but all major browsers now ship with good PDF support.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by TylerE on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:37PM (#23184310)
For me, not being in the browser is a feature, not a bug. I often want to be able to open a PDF in a dedicated window I can easily switch to.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by cptskippy on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:28PM (#23184955)
The problem with PDF is that it's a bag of needles disguised as a piece of paper. Most of the time people expect a PDF to be a document, not a Form, Rich Media, Contract, Javascript, or any of the other crap it can do. All that extra crap dramatically increases the attack surface area of Acrobat or any other PDF reader that supports it.

At least the PDF reader in Firefox is a Javascript App that runs in a Browser sandbox and doesn't support 99% of the crap a PDF can do.

Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by MaxBarraclough on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:52PM (#23184510)
Sure, but you can open a PDF in a new browser window. I'd rather not broaden my trusted codebase by installing another PDF reader.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by TylerE on Thursday May 14, 2020 @05:09PM (#23185486)
OSs have this annoying habit of condensing multiple windows of a single application down to one taskbar item/dock item/whatever.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by alpaca128 on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:42AM (#23189584)
On Windows this can easily be remedied in the options accessible via the taskbar. I always turn this off and tell it to show the full window titles instead of just the icons. Windows are not browser tabs, I don't ever have enough of them open to need that stacking behaviour.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by MaxBarraclough on Friday May 15, 2020 @05:01AM (#23190235)
Another option for Chrome/Windows is to open a Guest window or an Incognito window, which is treated as a separate window-group.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by MaxBarraclough on Friday May 15, 2020 @07:28AM (#23190928)
Too late to edit: I see now that only a Guest window gets its own window-group. Incognito windows do not.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by rad_gruchalski on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:50PM (#23186550)
What is the difference between having multiple pdf reader windows vs multiple browser windows then? If you are on a mac: cmd+` is your friend.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by TylerE on Thursday May 14, 2020 @07:05PM (#23186695)
I only have one PDF window open.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by rypskar on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:32AM (#23189530)
But do they remember your position in the PDF between restarts? I some times read books or lecture notes in PDF format, and dedicated programs works much better for that than the support in browsers
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by saagarjha on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:48PM (#23183694)
Not Safari.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by eric_h on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:58PM (#23183814)
How so? I have no problem opening PDF links directly in Safari.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by saagarjha on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:09PM (#23183975)
Safari "supports PDF", but not well. The PDF viewer is run in an extremely janky view that clearly has not been updated in years. It runs out-of-process, but takes little advantage of the many advances in XPC rendering that have come in recent years; as such it cannot handle looking up services correctly, or vibrancy, or even have Retina support for its UI. And those are just visual: the PDF support itself is shoddy; it's unable to do many things that other browsers can do out-of-the-box (forms?), searching for text has been broken for the better part of a year. It's an obvious rough spot in Safari's otherwise polished interface.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by eric_h on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:12PM (#23184009)
Fair criticism. I guess my bar for what I define as "good PDF support" is much lower than yours - I only generally read them or plug in a digital signature when signing my lease.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by saagarjha on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:17PM (#23184073)
Personally, I am loath to download documents. I actually like what iOS Safari does, which is run the generic document previewer on files inside the app itself. I hate clicking on a link on my computer and then getting a PPTX that I have to open in PowerPoint.
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by garaetjjte on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:30PM (#23184974)
For Windows, there's great SumatraPDF: https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by shrimp_emoji on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:30PM (#23184227)
On Linux, Okular[0] offers some of paid Reader's functionality for free. c:

0: https://okular.kde.org/

Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by behnamoh on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:11PM (#23183999)
You basically can't do much with the free version. Here's the list of things you ave to pay for: https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/pdf-reader-thanks.ph...
Re:Security Flaws in Adobe Acrobat Reader Allow Gaining Root... by spacechild1 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:15PM (#23184053)
Foxit reader is quite decent and much faster than Acrobat