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Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by toofy on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @09:38PM (#23174199)
> McConnell is drafting language to prevent this from being used on “federal election candidates” which of course is expected to pass.

So privacy for those in positions of power but not for us plebes.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by np_tedious on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @10:19PM (#23174498)
Do they have to be viable candidates? I don't mind being in a permanent state of casual campaigning
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by closeparen on Thursday May 14, 2020 @01:11AM (#23175558)
>An individual running for a seat in the House or Senate or for the office of U.S. President becomes a candidate when he or she raises or spends more than $5,000 in contributions or expenditures.

One generally needs a certain number of petition signatures to appear on a ballot, but apparently not needed just to legally be a candidate.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registeri...

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by Descartes1 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:04AM (#23175931)
Do you have to actually spend that $5000? Or can you just have it "raised"?
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by aperrien on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:10AM (#23176372)
Create a nonprofit to accept the "raised" contribution, and then swap it with another candidate in the pool for "consulting fees"...
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by boredgamer2 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @08:52AM (#23178837)
> Create a nonprofit

I like the enthusiasm, but this would get you slapped by the IRS (eventually). Any other ideas?

Maybe if we just pay each other in a ring through a legal escrow? Everyone puts in $5,001, the escrow pays everyone back $5000.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by godelski on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:11AM (#23176386)
So we start a party where we all sign to get each other on the ballot and donate to a pool that allocates $5k to each of us? Can this $5k just be moved around per candidate which counts as spending?
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by voldacar on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:37AM (#23176578)
This would become a problem if someone just joined the party with the intent of cashing out the 5k$ and leaving. Maybe you could fix this somehow with smart contracts? idk
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by boredgamer2 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @08:53AM (#23178852)
Legal escrow! No smart contracts needed
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by celticninja on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:08AM (#23176790)
if you cash out the $5k you lose candidate status.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by Wowfunhappy on Thursday May 14, 2020 @07:23AM (#23178151)
“Fine by me, I’m $5k richer now!”
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by dkersten on Thursday May 14, 2020 @07:35AM (#23178246)
Assign it but don’t physically give it to them?
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by giancarlostoro on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @10:33PM (#23174595)
We can even make a political party out of it where everyone in the party is a candidate.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by ObsoleteNerd on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:19AM (#23176040)
The Privacy Party is born.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by app4soft on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:04AM (#23176757)
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by giancarlostoro on Thursday May 14, 2020 @08:09PM (#23187351)
To be fair the Pirate Party is very pro privacy for seemingly obvious reasons.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by analognoise on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @10:46PM (#23174708)
This has a very Slack vibe to it that I can dig.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by analognoise on Thursday May 14, 2020 @11:16AM (#23180540)
No love for the Church of the SubGenious?
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by giancarlostoro on Thursday May 14, 2020 @08:10PM (#23187362)
I gave you an upvote in the previous comment because I knew what you were talking about mainly due to Slackware's reference to Church of SubGenious. I don't think many know what that is though.

For those curious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by yumraj on Thursday May 14, 2020 @12:23AM (#23175262)
That is indeed a great idea. Where and how do I sign up.

It would be a great act of civil disobedience.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by StillBored on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:24AM (#23177745)
Oh, that is great!

I would like to add, just think of the chaos at the primaries if the act of declaring candidacy one also declares they are running for the R|D nomination. The voting machines can barely deal with 20 presidential candidates. Imagine what would happen if you had to thousands of people running for a congressional seat!

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by chrisco255 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:24AM (#23176472)
I nominate np_tedious for President, along with the rest of Hacker News.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by DrScump on Thursday May 14, 2020 @05:03AM (#23177200)
I thought we were an autonomous collective.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by dredmorbius on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:40AM (#23177857)
Some of us are more autonomous than others.

Some are more collective.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by LatteLazy on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:45AM (#23176639)
The way this works is that no one is excluded. They collect everything blindly, then sort through for what they want. That was the issue when they falsely claimed US citizens were excluded. That’s the issue when they say the same about election candidates or sitting senators or whoever.

These programs are all or nothing by design.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by bitxbitxbitcoin on Thursday May 14, 2020 @11:15AM (#23180514)
"Do as I say, not as I do." - I've literally heard these words from the mouth of a LEO before.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by 0max on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:26PM (#23186318)
I'm getting the same vibe from EARN IT, no military grade encryption for us civvies.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by billme on Thursday May 14, 2020 @07:54PM (#23187219)
“(G) if the target of the electronic surveillance is an elected Federal official or a candidate in a Federal election, that the Attorney General has approved in writing of the investigation;“
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by xwdv on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @10:55PM (#23174774)
Just use a damn VPN.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by 0xdeadb00f on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:34PM (#23174970)
And when a court order requests the provider hand over your information?
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by rrix2 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @01:14AM (#23175579)
That's what the other six VPNs are for, right?
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by mirimir on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:36AM (#23176571)
Right, you have multiple personas, which are using branched/nested chains.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by bb611 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @01:35AM (#23175724)
No perfect solution, for sure, but you have some reasonably options to mitigate risk. If you can, use one outside the US i.e. with no financial presence of any kind there.

Admittedly that's a high bar, the next best choice is one that claims to keep no logs and has successfully defended such a claim to law enforcement. Not a long list here, but there are some.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by mirimir on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:26AM (#23176492)
Just use ~3 VPNs in a nested chain. So an adversary would need data from all three. Better yet, have the middle one be in a jurisdiction that doesn't cooperate with your adversary's.
Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by marvin on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:40AM (#23176601)
Are VPNs legal in China? It would be hilarious to set up a chain of VPN connections that are each in a jurisdiction that will not cooperate with one another.

E.g. one connection each in China, Russia and USA, and three more in the opposite direction of geopolitical allegiance if you’re super paranoid.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by mirimir on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:09AM (#23176794)
I'm not at all familiar with Chinese VPN services. But it's my impression that the Chinese authorities mostly care about domestic VPN use. Citizens are limited to approved VPNs, which are obviously backdoored.

More generally, as long as you're not interacting with domestic Chinese people, authorities don't care much about what you're doing. That's what I've seen providers claim in darknet forums. And that was my experience when I leased VPS in Hong Kong. Once I made it clear that I wouldn't be interacting with domestic Chinese people, all was cool.

I have used one Russian VPN service, Insorg. They're one of the oldest. I've read about others, but don't recall names. And it's my impression that Russian authorities also mostly care about interactions with citizens.

So anyway, I typically start with a mainstream VPN service. Then I chain one or two notoriously hard to coerce ones. And for Mirimir, IVPN is the final one. Because I've written stuff for them, basically, so using IVPN earlier in chains would be stupid.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by thaumasiotes on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:15AM (#23176841)
> Are VPNs legal in China?

No, but their use is extremely common anyway.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by dTal on Thursday May 14, 2020 @09:54AM (#23179493)
You've invented Tor.

Although Tor is better, because the connection reroutes dynamically. And worse, because anyone can volunteer to be an entrypoint or endpoint - this matters because a very well-resourced adversary could conceivably control both your entrypoint and your endpoint, and use a timing correlation attack to de-anonymize you. But I don't know that nested VPNs are immune to that either, given the level of invasive surveillance 5-eyes has over the entire internet.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by mirimir on Friday May 15, 2020 @10:09AM (#23192361)
No, I've copied Tor :)

And re dynamic circuits, I did a crude hack: https://github.com/mirimir/vpnchains

I only use Tor via nested VPN chains. The VPNs mainly provide backup anonymity, in case Tor circuits are compromised. And they also anonymize me vs Tor use, which may avoid attention.

When I don't care so much about anonymity, I just use nested VPN chains. Throughput is 5-10 times that for Tor, latency is lower, and I'm not limited to TCP.

Re:Senate narrowly rejects plan to require a warrant for Ame... by lihaciudaniel on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:52AM (#23176267)
VPN is asking for your financial support